[pianotech] Thermoworks hygrometers, etc.

David Skolnik davidskolnik at optonline.net
Sun Sep 9 10:31:11 MDT 2012


Rob -
Thanks for the information.  I'll probably order a couple.  At that 
price, it's a pretty good deal, even if they don't work!
Still, there are some other considerations. Manufacturer's specs 
aside, you really don't know how accurate a particular device is 
unless you have a more reliable one to compare it to.  This goes all 
the way up the chain.  You can spend significant sums for a measuring 
instrument, and then almost double that price to have it arrive with 
written certification.  At some point, we're looking for a balance 
between reliable functionality and rational objectives.  Are we 
looking for something to help us make a point to the mildly 
interested customer?  Tracking the conditions under which we operate 
to anticipate/comprehend the nature of our task, or try to make a 
point to a 'mildly' disinterested administrator?   In this second 
case, I offer a recent example:

I tuned (after pitch lowering about 20 cents) in a 2 year-old 
synagogue building (congregation is considerably older than 2 years), 
where, with the A/C maintaining a temperature of around 70 degrees, 
the RH was 80%!! I considered that my gauge was faulty, so I took it 
into an adjoining room (different air handling unit) and RH reading 
immediately dropped to 55%.  The point being that, if I'm going to 
initiate a process between the facilities management and the HVAC 
contractor, I get only one chance to be credible.  If I have to 
backtrack and say "Oh, sorry, my gauge mis-spoke",   it's over.  My 
current gauge, is an Extech RH390
http://www.extech.com/instruments/product.asp?catid=37&prodid=160

I like it for two reasons in particular:
- it reads from 0% to 100%
- specs as accuracy of 2& +/- (within the mid range...less accurate 
at extremes, but doesn't go blank below, say 20% or 14%)

I paid $190 for it...basically list price.  (That's my version of 
'coming out'.) For more, I could have gotten the same item with the 
calibration certification. Quite a bit more than the $25.00 current 
price for the Thermoworks pen, however, Thermoworks also has a 6000 
series (6002) which seems to have similar specs to the Extech unit 
(0-100 % RH; +/- 2%) and costs only about $100.  Good to know, next 
time a drop mine down a storm drain, a favorite pastime.

Is it worth it?   To me, it is, for reasons specified.  Mine actually 
did stop working during the warrantee period.  Dealer sent me another 
one, with the same terms as Rob's experience:  "Don't send the other 
back, just throw it out".  Admittedly, this is good public relations, 
but it also suggests that the economic model for manufacturing even 
"precision" equipment has changed.  Some level of quality control is 
probably built into the production line, and any non-compliant output 
is more easily replaced than corrected.   What does that say about 
actual production costs?  In Asia?

David Skolnik, RPT
Hastings on Hudson, NY




At 04:22 AM 9/8/2012, you wrote:
>I know there was a recent thread on data loggers of humidity, etc.
>
>I have a Thermoworks pocket hygrometer which has worked beautifully 
>for the last 2.5 years until this last week.  I wrote to them about 
>no temp or humidity being displayed -- just dashes.  I changed 
>batteries, reset the device, etc.  So I wrote the company to ask how 
>much it would cost to fix it.  Their reply?
>
>---
>"The unit does have a standard one year warranty against factory 
>defects, however the unit should not stop reading in this manner. I 
>will go ahead and send you a replacement at no charge to the same 
>address listed on the original order at your company location. You 
>should receive the unit in a few days. There is no need to send back 
>the other unit, you can dispose of it at your location as desired."
>---
>
>I received a shipping invoice moments later with a tracking number. 
>The whole thing transpired over about 2 hours.
>
>So, despite having great products, they also have great customer 
>service and they stand behind their products... I didn't think there 
>were any companies left that did this...  :-)
>
>Here's the unit I have...
>
>http://www.thermoworks.com/products/humidity/rt819.html
>
>I'm a bigger fan now...
>
>Regards,
>
>Rob McCall
>
>McCall Piano Service, LLC
>www.mccallpiano.com
>Murrieta, CA
>951-698-1875




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