[pianotech] More Dues Paying Fiasco (Sigh.......)

[David Skolnik]

Sorry for previous mis-send

To David L and WimB -

DavidL wrote:
>are people's lives that empty that this topic continues in every 
>possible ridiculous iteration. People should get a life and move on. 
>.... Life is too short as it is.

At the risk of continuing the offense:
The original complaint was a re-kindled expression of frustration 
about an issue that has not entirely disappeared: frustration with 
aspects HL format and continued ignorance as to the ultimate (or 
sooner) disposition of this list.   I agree that Will's post was, 
perhaps, a bit premature, but, in his defense, he had already lost an 
hour of his time, at least allegedly, to the errant software, so some 
slack should have been extended.  Most of what followed was attacking 
him or in defense of.  And I would have let it ride, even though "get 
a life and move on" can, in fact, be read as provocative, but, 
between this and Wim's closing "shut the hell up" (sans :-)) to what 
was an otherwise reasonable perspective on organizational procedures, 
I felt disinclined to simply walk away.

Both of you had the options of not continuing to read the thread or 
of not responding.  You both made valid points, but allowed 
yourselves to indulge in 'Zing'ery. That, as much as any flawed 
thought process of others, is what tends to perpetuate these things, 
past the point of enlightenment or fun.

Let's do better.

David Skolnik
Hastings on Hudson, NY






At 09:17 PM 2/7/2012, you wrote:
>In perspective.
>
>When I was on the Board about 30 years ago, dues were due Jan 1st, 
>but dues notices were not sent out until Jan 31. Dues were 
>delinquent March 31. RVP's were notified in April that if a member 
>didn't pay by May 31, he/she would be dropped. In other words, a 
>member would be able to receive full benefits, including being able 
>to attend PTG sponsored seminars, and get the Journal for 5 months 
>before membership would be dropped. When the Board first brought up 
>the idea that we should send out dues notices before Jan 31, one 
>Board member actually said. "members will think the PTG is begging for money".
>
>The Board, and Council, finally got their act together when we hired 
>a management company to run our organization. Dues notices are now 
>sent out at the beginning of November, with a payment due date of 
>Jan 1st. The delinquent notices are sent out Jan. 31. By that time, 
>dues are already 30 over due.  When you car insurance bill has not 
>been paid 1 week AFTER THE DUE DATE, you get a delinquency notice 
>from the insurance company. The PTG is sending out a delinquency 
>notice ONE MONTH after the due. date. How many days after the due 
>date should the HO wait until the delinquent notice is sent out? One 
>day, one week, a month?
>
>Bottom line. Not only are our dues collection process much more 
>efficient, members have 3 months to get their dues paid before a 
>delinquent notice is sent. If you don't want the hassle of dealing 
>with a slow program, much less getting a delinquency notice in the 
>mail, pay your dues early. Otherwise, shut the hell up.
>
>Wim
>
>
>From: David Love <davidlovepianos at comcast.net>
>To: pianotech <pianotech at ptg.org>
>Sent: Tue, Feb 7, 2012 3:34 pm
>Subject: Re: [pianotech] More Dues Paying Fiasco (Sigh.......)
>
>Do we really think that a couple of letters getting sent out 
>unnecessarily is breaking the bank? Time for a reality check. Is 
>business that slow or are people's lives that empty that this topic 
>continues in every possible ridiculous iteration. People should get 
>a life and move on. Really. Strip away the inessential. Life is too 
>short as it is.
>David Love
><http://www.davidlovepianos.com/>www.davidlovepianos.com
>(sent from bb)

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