I don't think it's bad to be concerned about these things. In fact, I avoid this and other stuff also. Eat organic food, etc. But, I try not to be fanatical about it. E.g., If I run out of my non-flouride toothpaste, I'll use some flouride toothpaste. When I eat at friends' houses, I don't ask them if their food is organic. :-) But, yeah, we're killing ourselves. And often corporations don't give a flip about anything other than profits. But Teflon works for what we need. I don't snort it. And I do on rare occasions inhale real pipe or cigar smoke. Go figure. :-) -- John Formsma, RPT Blue Mountain, MS On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 2:39 PM, Susan Kline <skline at peak.org> wrote: > ** > Thanks, Douglas. > > However, the point about fluoride's presence in our water, and in > pesticides, > and its harmful effects on iodine metabolism and thyroid are certainly > well > taken. Bromine is even worse, and we're practically swimming in it. > Perchlorate > and chlorinated water seem to be everywhere, too. > > The trouble with halides like these is that they displace iodine in the > places > it must be. The most problematic is thyroid, but many other parts of the > body also have > iodine receptors. If there isn't enough iodine, the thyroid makes hormone > using > other halides. These test "normal" but they are non-functional. So > people's > doctors say "your thyroid is perfectly normal" while patients say, "then > why > am I showing so many low thyroid symptoms?" and the doctors say, "it's all > in > your head." > > Best to avoid halides to the extent possible, and to do at least a small > amount > of iodine supplementation. Some people have "Hashimoto's thyroiditis" > which research > now finds is worsened by eating "type 1" dairy food. (Cows come in two > flavors, > and type 1 -- Holsteins are type 1 -- is the "bad" type. Old European > breeds, > Jerseys, and Guernseys are usually type 2. All goats are type 2.) Iodine > supplements > sometimes make hashimotos worse. Lots to learn about, but some things to > do are simple. > Get rid of the teflon cookware, filter your drinking water and shower > water, > avoid chlorinated swimming pools (some places have saltwater swimming > pools now), > and be aware of bromine sources. > > worrywart Susan > > John Formsma wrote: > > Doug, > > Good info, particularly from someone who is trained to know about this > sort of thing. Thanks. > > Yes, embarrassing when it's our own folks who propagate the > misinformation. Intelligence is not a prerequisite for this line of work. > > I don't snort it either, and try to avoid the dust...like I try to avoid > any dust. I certainly don't obsess over it. > > -- > John Formsma, RPT > Blue Mountain, MS > > > On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 11:01 AM, Douglas Gregg <classicpianodoc at gmail.com > > wrote: > >> Joe, >> I am not sure where you are finding your information on Teflon. As >> long as you don't heat it (as in a fry pan) over 440 degrees F, it is >> quite safe. Teflon is used extensively in medical implants because it >> has bee shown to be completely non-reactive in the body. >> >> As a pathologist, I have never seen or heard of any cases of >> inhalation pneumonitis resulting from Teflon powder inhalation. >> >> I did a Medline search just to see if there were any reports of >> pneumonitis from the use or production of Teflon powder. I got zero >> hits. Clearly, I am not recommending snorting Teflon powder, but in >> normal daily use with reasonable care, it is safe. >> >> *The only hits on google are from this PTG forum. That is embarrassing.* >> >> Douglas Gregg >> Classic Piano Doc >> Veterinary pathologist- retired >> >> Message: 5 >> Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2012 21:18:37 -0400 >> From: Joe Wiencek <joespiano at gmail.com> >> To: pianotech at ptg.org >> Subject: Re: [pianotech] Teflon >> Message-ID: <A1E33FFD-D1D2-45D5-AF19-9DBFF5521282 at gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes >> >> I don't think you can bring up this subject enough. I don't believe >> the manufacturer is the best source to trust on the safety of ANY >> chemical or food product. It's not in their commercial interest. The >> form that piano technicians use most, the microfine teflon powder, or >> any fine powder for that matter can settle in the lungs and be >> extremely difficult to remove. >> >> If you want to understand how fluoride became ubiquitous in dental >> health and municipal water supplies all over, do a bit of research on >> weapons manufacturers that had a very nasty and toxic by-product they >> didn't know how to dispose of. But don't go to the ADA or mainstream >> media for that info, because you won't find it there. >> >> Joe Wiencek >> > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/pianotech.php/attachments/20120828/f9b819cf/attachment.htm>
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