[pianotech] Teflon -- OT

[Susan Kline]

Thanks, Douglas.

However, the point about fluoride's presence in our water, and in 
pesticides,
and its harmful effects on iodine metabolism and thyroid are certainly well
taken. Bromine is even worse, and we're practically swimming in it. 
Perchlorate
and chlorinated water seem to be everywhere, too.

The trouble with halides like these is that they displace iodine in the 
places
it must be. The most problematic is thyroid, but many other parts of the 
body also have
iodine receptors. If there isn't enough iodine, the thyroid makes 
hormone using
other halides. These test "normal" but they are non-functional. So people's
doctors say "your thyroid is perfectly normal" while patients say, "then 
why
am I showing so many low thyroid symptoms?" and the doctors say, "it's 
all in
your head."

Best to avoid halides to the extent possible, and to do at least a small 
amount
of iodine supplementation. Some people have "Hashimoto's thyroiditis" 
which research
now finds is worsened by eating "type 1" dairy food. (Cows come in two 
flavors,
and type 1 -- Holsteins are type 1 -- is the "bad" type. Old European 
breeds,
Jerseys, and Guernseys are usually type 2. All goats are type 2.) Iodine 
supplements
sometimes make hashimotos worse. Lots to learn about, but some things to 
do are simple.
Get rid of the teflon cookware, filter your drinking water and shower 
water,
avoid chlorinated swimming pools (some places have saltwater swimming 
pools now),
and be aware of bromine sources.

worrywart Susan 

John Formsma wrote:
> Doug,
>
> Good info, particularly from someone who is trained to know about this 
> sort of thing. Thanks.
>
> Yes, embarrassing when it's our own folks who propagate the 
> misinformation. Intelligence is not a prerequisite for this line of work.
>
> I don't snort it either, and try to avoid the dust...like I try to 
> avoid any dust. I certainly don't obsess over it. 
>
> -- 
> John Formsma, RPT
> Blue Mountain, MS
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 11:01 AM, Douglas Gregg 
> <classicpianodoc at gmail.com <mailto:classicpianodoc at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     Joe,
>     I am not sure where you are finding your information on Teflon. As
>     long as you don't heat it (as in a fry pan) over 440 degrees F, it is
>     quite safe. Teflon is used extensively in medical implants because it
>     has bee shown to be completely non-reactive in the body.
>
>     As a pathologist, I have never seen or heard of any cases of
>     inhalation pneumonitis resulting from Teflon powder inhalation.
>
>     I did a Medline search just to see if there were any reports of
>     pneumonitis from the use or production of Teflon powder. I got zero
>     hits. Clearly, I am not recommending snorting Teflon powder, but in
>     normal daily use with reasonable care, it is safe.
>
>     *The only hits on google are from this PTG forum. That is
>     embarrassing.*
>
>     Douglas Gregg
>     Classic Piano Doc
>     Veterinary pathologist- retired
>
>     Message: 5
>     Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2012 21:18:37 -0400
>     From: Joe Wiencek <joespiano at gmail.com <mailto:joespiano at gmail.com>>
>     To: pianotech at ptg.org <mailto:pianotech at ptg.org>
>     Subject: Re: [pianotech] Teflon
>     Message-ID: <A1E33FFD-D1D2-45D5-AF19-9DBFF5521282 at gmail.com
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>     I don't think you can bring up this subject enough.  I don't believe
>     the manufacturer is the best source to trust on the safety of ANY
>     chemical or food product.  It's not in their commercial interest. The
>     form that piano technicians use most, the microfine teflon powder, or
>     any fine powder for that matter can settle in the lungs and be
>     extremely difficult to remove.
>
>     If you want to understand how fluoride became ubiquitous in dental
>     health and municipal water supplies all over, do a bit of research on
>     weapons manufacturers that had a very nasty and toxic by-product they
>     didn't know how to dispose of.  But don't go to the ADA or mainstream
>     media for that info, because you won't find it there.
>
>     Joe Wiencek
>
>
>
>
>
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