[pianotech] What?!!

[Paul Williams]

Well put, Will.

Words can either build one up or tear them down.  There are no real
definitions, except for the uneducated customer who thinks it's rebuilt
when "they" replaced "the pads"!! LOL...( I dunno... I just love hearing
that phrase from people!!)  :>)

We can all go around and around on semantics.  I'm with you on the
definition of "rebuild", Will. I'm not telling! Very very few of us
actually do that.  Might you even suggest the re casting of plates, and
cabinet re-construction???  Ha ha ha .  Like that's ever going to
happen...now, I admit that's a bit overboard, but so is this conversation!

All I do here at UNL is "re-condition", fix, or semi-partial rebuilding,
even when sending out for a new soundboard and bridges...etc....I've never
coined the phrase "rebuilt" as far as I know. There just is no such "real"
thing!

Paul


On 8/1/12 2:39 PM, "Encore Pianos" <encorepianos at metrocast.net> wrote:

>It's the only way you can have an apples to apples discussion.  It's the
>only way we can have or create commonly accepted terminology as to what
>constitutes "rebuilding, "remanufacturing", "reconditioning " and so on.
>Unless we define our terms, it's nothing but nonsense where we are talking
>about "something" but we do not know exactly what.   Ron may know what a
>rebuild entails, but I may think it is something different, and someone
>else
>thinks it something different from either Ron or me.  If the three of us
>try
>to converse without defining our terms, where's that going to go?
>
>I know what a REAL REBUILD entails, but I'm not telling, and you can't pry
>it out of me......       :-)
>
>Will Truitt  
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On
>Behalf
>Of David Love
>Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2012 1:46 PM
>To: pianotech at ptg.org
>Subject: Re: [pianotech] What?!!
>
>Plus I think the issue with respect to this particular discussion is
>deciding when it's worth rebuilding and the associated costs for certain
>procedures versus buying new.  Unless we're clear on what exactly
>rebuilding
>means and entails it's pretty hard to make that determination.  Clearly it
>means different things to different people.
>
>David Love
>www.davidlovepianos.com
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On
>Behalf
>Of Ron Nossaman
>Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2012 10:36 AM
>To: Pianotech
>Subject: Re: [pianotech] What?!!
>
>
>> Ron,
>> And you want a detailed list? Why?
>
>Why not? I'm wondering what a "got it all" "real rebuild" that isn't a
>"remanufacture" is. I don't have any problem describing what I do to a
>customer's piano if someone is interested. Why would you?
>
>
>You know damned well what a "rebuild"
>> entails.
>
>No Joe, I don't, which is why I asked. Anyone who's been in the business
>since Tuesday has been called to service someone's "rebuilt" piano that
>proved to be anything from beautifully remanufactured (*extremely* rare),
>to
>a crappie shelter that someone blew out the chunks, glued on (but didn't
>trim)new keytops (much more common), or anything in between.
>
>
>>do you need to see my list to validate my ability or thoroughness
>>or???? Why is it you can't just take my word? Not following your
>>insistance  here bub.
>
>Joe, it's not a matter of trust. I've never seen any of your work, so I
>have
>nothing to judge by except what you say, and when you say something got
>"it
>all", but didn't, then I have nothing to go on except a contradiction.
>That
>makes "got it all" empty hype, so I can't help but wonder what was
>actually
>done to the piano. I don't see anything at all unreasonable about that,
>and
>wonder why there is so much resistance to outlining a rough list of what
>was
>done to the piano that produced such a fine result.
>
>Ron N
>
>
>
>