Ron, Yes, you're correct to pick up my association of bad sound to lousy pianos. Let's digress a little. Why do some manufacturers laminate and others not. Lamination provides for a better string termination because of the grain orientation and is, by far, easier to manufacture, but why hasn't there been a ground swell toward the laminated bridge? Roger Gable ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Nossaman" <rnossaman at cox.net> To: <pianotech at ptg.org> Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2010 4:40 PM Subject: Re: [pianotech] YC Capo Bars > On 9/19/2010 6:11 PM, Roger Gable wrote: >> Will, >> I'll use another word(s), "nasal" or "tight". I've noticed that >> laminated bridges create a sound associated with the facial expressions, >> such as when you squint or grimace or even the tightening of the jaw. > > Roger, > While I'm sure you've heard pianos with laminated bridges that sound > lousy, as have I, it wasn't the laminated bridge or bridge cap that did > it. Quite the contrary. A dense laminated cap makes for a better and > cleaner termination than solid beech or maple. > > >> Another associated tag that might point in the right >> direction is the sound we hear from low cost (cheap) imports in the 5 >> and 6 octave range -- an obvious impedance mismatch either from hammer >> to string, or string to bridge. > > No, that's a soundboard problem, most readily apparent in compression > crowned soundboard assemblies. The board isn't stiff enough there. > Steinway is notorious for killer octave problems, without benefit of > either laminated bridge caps, or soundboard panels. > > >>Remember the Kimball grands of the 70's >> and 80's, how "pinched" they sounded. > > They did, but that wasn't the fault of the bridges. It was the fault of > the scale and soundboard design. > > >>Can anybody help (rescue) me here. >> My association of that similar sound comes from the cheap (low cost) >> laminated boards on consoles made by Story and Clark. > > You're demonstrating more vividly with each sentence that it's the lousy > overall piano, and not the laminated bridge cap that is the problem. > > Ron N >
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