>>I for one, never use the lyre as a fulcrum... Bad for the knees but better
for the piano.
Do you have test results to back up this claim or is it just intuitive
analysis? I’ve seen factories use the lyre; I’ve seen keyboard Carriage use
the lyre; I, myself, have used the lyre many, many times with no problems,
especially using the brace below (tip of the hat to John Dewey).
A modern, well constructed lyre and keybed are very strong components. The
brace below makes the combination bullet-proof. Using a lyre is easier on
the back leg and definitely easier on the mover. Personally I value my back
and knees more than any piano that I move.
If you’re not comfortable using the lyre that’s fine, I have no problem with
that. There are indeed some rickety lyres that I am not comfortable using.
If you want to state it is your personal preference to not use the lyre, I’m
good with that. But to categorically state it is bad for the piano, do you
have some research to back up that claim? Because many reputable movers and
factories do use the lyre.
Dean
Dean W May (812) 235-5272
PianoRebuilders.com (888) DEAN-MAY
Terre Haute IN 47802
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From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf
Of Greg Newell
Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 9:38 PM
To: pianotech at ptg.org
Subject: Re: [pianotech] The much maligned Piano Mover
Ed,
I agree completely. Being a technician certainly makes my
efforts a little different than other movers who are not. My point , however
poorly made, was to get folks to think that not all movers cause damage.
Some actually care about what they do. I for one, never use the lyre as a
fulcrum. Even before I purchase the piano horse from Jansen I would ease the
corner down to the skid by hand after first removing the lyre. Bad for the
knees but better for the piano.
Greg Newell
Greg's Piano Forté
www.gregspianoforte.com
216-226-3791 (office)
216-470-8634 (mobile)
http://www.wealthyaffiliate.com?a_aid=NNaYfMKd
From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf
Of Ed Foote
Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 9:04 PM
To: pianotech at ptg.org
Subject: Re: [pianotech] The much maligned Piano Mover
Greg writes, (inre piano movers being cast in a bad light):
Often, however, we are blamed for quite a few things
that can’t possibly be our fault. In the case of pedal lyres I believe that
if the lyre was made well enough with solid material (not “select”
hardwoods) and on the other side, not rocked down to the floor using the
lyre as a fulcrum, these problems would not exist.
Agreed. Yet.... If I were asked what were the most common problems caused
by movers, the lyre would be right at the top of the list, (aside from the
occasional exploding grand diving off the lift). I have seen more "mover
damage" around the lyre than all the rest combined. Usually just the
leathers torn off, but I have seen pedal rods sculpted into flower
arrangements, screws totally stripped, etc. long list.
It is always ignorance on their part. As a technician that can rebuild
that lyre, you know how it is installed. Amazingly, many movers continue to
move and never learn.
Regards,
Ed Foote RPT
http://www.uk-piano.org/edfoote/index.html
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