[pianotech] enough!

[Clayton Bean's Piano Biz]

Gentlemen:

Haven't we had enough discussion, rambling, and sniping re Yamaha hammers, etc?
Please, you're clogging up my e-mail box .
I thought this email avenue was for seeking answers to problems. Am I misinformed?
Joe Garrett, Ron and Tom were kind to suggest an answers to my problem and I was very thankful  
- and I will respond to them after my next appt's result.

Thank you for your kindness gentlemen (Anna was also helpful and the only woman on here so far)

Clay

----- Original Message ----- 
  From: PAULREVENKOJONES at aol.com 
  To: pianotech at ptg.org 
  Sent: Sunday, February 07, 2010 10:00 PM
  Subject: Re: [pianotech] Hammer strike line. Was-----Yamaha Hammer Suggestion


  Actually, Ron, this deserves a rational response; I might caution you that your invective is unwarranted. I will say again, since you seemed to miss my point altogether, that the differences between factory board and bellies, particularly S&S CC boards and the more recent RC&S boards may account for the differences in strike line that we are seeing. Two people, as you say, have indicated that there are apparently demonstrable differences. I would guess that there are probably more. This is still not a proof of anything as much as it is a surprisingly happy claim which should lead us to ask why. Is it in the belly construction alone? You will say so. I might agree, based on my own experience with 100's of new boards, all CC. No, Ron, I've never built an RC&S board. How does this make me disinterested in learning something "outside my marketable experience" whatever that means? And to what semantic bullshit are you referring? You have a knee-jerk reaction going on here somehow, perhaps to me, perhaps to something else. You've gone beyond civil conversation here. I invite you to re-read what I've said so far and try again. I spoke to factory belly/forefinishing on (assumed) CC boards. I'm not threatened by anything at all; but you are certainly defensive of something. I'm as stupid as the rest of us. If I've misunderstood anything you've said, consider me a willing, if not very apt pupil. However, if you take my questions as intentional misdirection, don't bother to answer them in the future. 

  Regards,

  Paul

  In a message dated 2/7/2010 8:36:36 P.M. Central Standard Time, rnossaman at cox.net writes:
    PAULREVENKOJONES at aol.com wrote:
    > All worthwhile considerations. Yet it is striking, no pun intended, as 
    > has been pointed out, that RC&S boards _seem_ to need less hammer 
    > movement. 

    Why is this so threatening to you? Two people who design and 
    build these systems in the real world have indicated that it 
    is either less necessary, or altogether unnecessary to deviate 
    from a straight strike line for tonal purposes in a RC&S 
    board. If you, not having built boards like this at all, so 
    lacking any experience with same, know better than those of us 
    who have, why don't you inform us as to why we don't know what 
    we're talking about instead of weaseling around this semantic 
    bullshit? If you're not interested in learning anything 
    outside your marketable experience, that's your call, but 
    someone else might be. This information has been offered in 
    all honesty as real and verified as valid by building the 
    damned things and trying it. If you have anything real and 
    pertinent to contribute besides speculation and misdirection, 
    please do.
    Ron N
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