Paul, I must say that the ones I did were 4 years ago. I usually used the Spurlock hammer jig for narrowing the hammers and taking of weight. I use a gram scale, pre-weigh them (I use a chart) pass them through the jig, re-weigh until I have a nice line for the weight I'm looking for. The ones I got from Steinway were the same hammers I get from them right out of the box put on any shank you want. Once the hammers were on the shanks I had no control and they were too heavy and bulky. Sometimes the boring angle was a little off on a few which made the line look not so professional to me. I could take the hammers and "shape" them but that extra control wasn't there for me. The piano was OK but I expected more out of it. I might be getting too picky. They might be much better now. It might be worth a try again. Randy Ellen Chastain On Feb 5, 2010, at 10:56 AM, Paul T Williams wrote: > Randy, > > I've never tried the pre-hung Steinway hammers, but have thought about doing it as I have time crunches with certain classroom or professor studios here at Univ of NE. What goes wrong with them? I'm curious. I've never heard a negative comment about them, nor do I know anyone that has ordered them, personally. Has anyone else out there ordered pre-hung? > > Best, > Paul > > > > From: Randy Chastain <Randy_Chastain at sbcglobal.net> > To: pianotech at ptg.org > Date: 02/05/2010 11:59 AM > Subject: Re: [pianotech] Yamaha Hammer Suggestion > > > > > Tom, > I like your two cents and from having almost completed today a hammer job for a Steinway L with Steinway hammers (request of owner) , thank you for bringing up part of the detailed process and skill it takes to do a good and proper job. The attention to detail can be overlooked for sure by some and end up with a bigger problem. The hard work starts at the beginning no matter who you get your parts from. Its the detailed work that pays off. I still hear of techs who buy, for example pre hung Steinway hammers :( . I did that once early on and, oh my gosh!!!Never, never again. > > I would be very interested in how you or anybody else find the proper hammer line/sweet spot. I can ALWAYS learn something. I have one of those diseases that I have to keep learning. There's just so much out there that I can't help myself. I live in the San Francisco bay area and I wish there was a better way for me to continue to learn after 15 years of this. I have it. > > Randy Chastain > > > > > On Feb 5, 2010, at 2:26 AM, Tom Servinsky wrote: > > > Steven > > I'll throw my 2 cents in on this one. > > Truth be told, there are many types of hammers that could work for this piano. With good voicing techniques and a good understanding how many different types of hammers respond, one can get the sound of the piano to be clear and full bodied. That being said, it's all a matter of how much time and effort you want to make. > > Although I have my go-to hammers I prefer, I finding more and more it's more of doing an exquisite hanging job that makes for a nice sounding C7. Taking the time to make sure that the traveling is dead-on, and your hammer strike line reflects that of the sweet spots of the piano will lay the grounds for a nice voicing experience. It's when the strike line is not in check with the piano that we end treating the symptoms and not the disease. I've seen countless techs spending too much time trying to overcome the problems of a bad strike line or poor traveling. > > Tom Servinsky > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Ilvedson" <ilvey at sbcglobal.net> > > To: <pianotech at ptg.org> > > Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 12:12 AM > > Subject: Re: [pianotech] Yamaha Hammer Suggestion > > > > > >> No offense to anyone in particular...OK?...but this idea that any piano hammer can be hung and sounds great right off the bat...well, I've got a problem with that. I think we need a little more education in voicing... > >> > >> David Ilvedson, RPT > >> Pacifica, CA 94044 > >> > >> ----- Original message ---------------------------------------- > >> From: "John Dever" <jazzman3743 at live.com> > >> To: pianotech at ptg.org > >> Received: 2/4/2010 4:13:11 PM > >> Subject: Re: [pianotech] Yamaha Hammer Suggestion > >> > >> > >> > >>> Ari Isaac Cadenza "S" Hammers. > >> > >>> I just had a set installed on my Petrof > >> > >>> Nice right out of the box. > >> > >>> JD > >>> > >> > >> > >>> From: hoppsmusic at hotmail.com > >>> To: pianotech at ptg.org > >>> Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2010 02:49:37 +0000 > >>> Subject: [pianotech] Yamaha Hammer Suggestion > >> > >> > >> > >>> Hello List, > >>> > >>> I am looking for a suggestion of new hammers for a Yamaha C7. It will be used in a > >>> small hall (seating less than 300). The preference would be for as full and rich a > >>> sound as possible with a crisp high treble. I would hope for hammers that would not > >>> need extensive voicing immediately. > >>> > >>> Has anyone replaced hammers and have any experience or suggestions? > >>> > >>> Thanks, > >>> > >>> Steven Hopp > >>> Midland, TX > >> > >> > >> > >>> Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now. > >>> > >>> _________________________________________________________________ > >>> Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. > >>> http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469227/direct/01/ > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://ptg.org/pipermail/pianotech.php/attachments/20100205/e0c4c425/attachment.htm>
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