[pianotech] Restringing with original pinblock

Al Guecia/AlliedPianoCraft AlliedPianoCraft at hotmail.com
Sun Oct 18 08:02:56 MDT 2009


Will, thanks for taking the time to prepare the detailed procedure. I also 
like the idea of butting the pb to the case and stretcher. That's the way 
I'll do it.

Al



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From: "William Truitt" <surfdog at metrocast.net>
Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2009 9:31 AM
To: <pianotech at ptg.org>
Subject: Re: [pianotech] Restringing with original pinblock

> Hi Al:
>
> I've done it both ways over the years, and I think that fitting the two
> pieces separately is by far the easiest way to do it.  I would make the 
> bass
> capping piece first, fit it to the flange as well as the underside of the
> plate, leaving it a bit too thick at first.  Then I would fit the larger
> bottom piece to the face flange and the underside of the tenor and treble
> section of the plate.  Then joint down the bottom of the bass capping 
> piece
> until the larger piece contacts the underside of the plate fully.  Remove
> the pieces, drill 4 indexing holes for bridge pins into the bottom of the
> bass capping piece, place the bass piece onto the inverted plate 
> underside.
> Now you will carefully press the larger pinblock piece against the plate
> flange as you press upward into the indexing pins.  (Actually, I wack it
> with a rubber mallet).  Remove, drill out the holes, and clamp the two
> pieces together after applying glue. Proceed as usual from there.
>
> If I am visualizing your block correctly, this could be reinstalled as a
> fully fitted pinblock where it butts the sides of the case and is glued to
> the stretcher - if you have indexed the plate and pinblock location prior 
> to
> removal of both. I do this with locater pins drilled through the plate 
> into
> the pinblock before teardown, and have made many a new pinblock for a 
> piano
> that was fully fitted, where it had been a floater before.  It's not that
> much more work, and will strengthen the mounting of the pinblock to the 
> rim
> sides and the stretcher.  Whether there is an acoustic benefit to doing 
> that
> is questionable.
>
> Mark Perry brought up the idea of using a carving duplicator machine to
> duplicate this or the more complex two or four piece Chickering pinblocks.
> This might be of value if the original block(s) were well mated to the
> plate, which they often are not.  Even if it were well fit, I would not
> trust the duplicator to get the screw holes in exactly the right place.
> With the two or four piece blocks, these are machine screws going into a
> threaded hole in the plate - so there is almost no fudge factor for 
> location
> of screw holes.  You would likely find that you would have to enlarge the
> holes in the pinblock to make it work.  Better to simply use dowel centers
> set into the screw holes in the plate to index the new holes in the
> pinblock.
>
> Will
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On 
> Behalf
> Of Al Guecia/AlliedPianoCraft
> Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2009 8:39 AM
> To: pianotech at ptg.org
> Subject: Re: [pianotech] Restringing with original pinblock
>
> Will, this is a one piece pinblock where the bass section is thicker than
> the tenor and treble. It shouldn't be a big problem to duplicate. I have 
> two
>
> approaches I could take. I could get a pinblock the thickness of the bass
> section and route down the tenor and treble, or get one the thickness of 
> the
>
> t & t and add a layer of maple to the bass section. If I can get my hands 
> on
>
> a suitable piece of maple, I think the latter would be a better choice. 
> Most
>
> of my rebuildings have been Steinways and M&H, this is my first Chickering
> pinblock.
>
> Al
>
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "William Truitt" <surfdog at metrocast.net>
> Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2009 4:47 PM
> To: <pianotech at ptg.org>
> Subject: Re: [pianotech] Restringing with original pinblock
>
>> It's not possible on any of the two or four piece double decker 
>> Chickering
>> pinblocks that I have seen or rebuilt.  Because the machine screws go
>> through the pinblock into a threaded hole in the plate, are surrounded by
>> plate flanges on all four sides (most notably between the back of the
>> block
>> and the stretcher), in conjunction with the struts at the ends being in
>> the
>> way, it would not be possible, and would serve no practical value.
>>
>> Al, have you done this style of Chickering pinblock before?
>>
>> Will Truitt
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Mike Spalding
>> Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2009 9:38 AM
>> To: pianotech at ptg.org
>> Subject: Re: [pianotech] Restringing with original pinblock
>>
>> Al,
>>
>> If it's at all possible/practical, try to find a way to anchor the
>> pinblock to the case.  All in the spirit of playing it safe.  Others
>> with some actual Chickering experience may be able to suggest how...
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> Al Guecia/AlliedPianoCraft wrote:
>>>
>>>     The upside (not performance wise) it that it's just attached to
>>>     the plate and has no connection to the case. Even the low end
>>>     pianos I've done are screwed into the case. Go figure.
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> 


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