Esrael? You obviously refuse to see or to accept that there is another side. That's to bad. I see yours and respect your decision and others to make the beckets land wherever you wish. I just don't like or agree with it and see no reason for it. I choose to align them. I do not like seeing 2.5 coils and then 3 and then 3.5 because of over alignment or under alignment of beckets. I am entitled to my opinion on it as well as you are and I stated it. Esrael, as you said, we can also read posts from Joe Garret and William Monroe and many others as well who do not share your choice of becket alignment. If all one person is interested is THEIR side and being the correct one, then the discussion becomes useless especially when you degrade the topic into personal insults. And for the record, Ger, every instance that you cite in your post has its origin in functionality - and cosmetic appearance is a side effect. I disagree again Esrael. If you were to replace hammers in the treble and intentionally line them up 1/2" inch toward the keys. Not only would that be quite cosmetic but the note would not sound. Therefore, it is cosmetic and functional. As for key bushings. If to much glue was used on key bushings and they became hard as rocks, (I have seen this) they do in fact become noisy and clacky sounding like key pulley. Wood on wood. But, go ahead, be right no matter what. Don't bother to see the other side. I disrespect that totally in any person. As I said before, you choose to ignore "our" points for the sake of being right therefore the discussion is ended. But, I'm sure you will want the last word Esrael so, go for it. Jer Groot RPT From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf Of Israel Stein Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 9:03 PM To: pianotech at ptg.org Subject: [pianotech] Becket Alignment - sub-topic of Tuning pin height ----- Original Message ----- Monday, October 5, 2009 4:56:23 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Is it really necessary to intentionally place an insult Israel? You're obviously not willing to discuss this rationally and it is very obvious you miss my points and completely by-pass them altogether for the sake of being right rather than having an honest discussion. With that mentality, the discussion becomes useless. Jer Groot RPT What I find insulting, Ger, is this insistence on equating lack of attention to one small insignificant detail with general sloppy workmanship and lack of skill. This is an insult to a whole lot of very careful, very skilled, very reputable people who happen to not share your view on the terrible importance of this one detail. It's called "tarring with a broad brush". So, we can keep repeating our mutual insults - each in our own way - and thus continue to insult the intelligence of the memebrs of this list. Or we can carefully re-read David Love's post, and a recent post by Ron Nossaman and perhaps retreat from such extreme positions. And for the record, Ger, every instance that you cite in your post has its origin in functionality - and cosmetic appearance is a side effect. It looks nice when everything is neatly trimmed and the right length and so far and so on - but the more important consideration here is that bushing aren't noisy, and that there is sufficient cloth surface for a solid joint to the wood - but not so much surface as to cause excessive friction, and so far and so on. Which is a point that several people - besides myself - have made several times, apparently for nought. And I don't think anyone here is interested in me deconstructing your entire previous post along the above lines - so I won't. As to a more detailed analysis of the issues here as I see them, calmly and rationally addressed, I will try to post when I have time in response to William Monroe's very astute and relevant question posed to me by name earlier today. And those who aren't interested are invited to make use of the "Delete" key. Israel Stein _____ avast! Antivirus <http://www.avast.com> : Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 091005-0, 10/05/2009 Tested on: 10/5/2009 9:31:15 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://ptg.org/pipermail/pianotech.php/attachments/20091005/5c6e7ebf/attachment-0001.htm>
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