[pianotech] Re; Scaling Help

"Rafael M. Huberman Muñiz" rafahuberman at prodigy.net.mx
Wed Aug 26 14:46:44 MDT 2009


Thank you Joe for all your comments and sugestions!

First of all what I called a double plate maybe is not the correct  
term, but it is the first piano that I encounter that has this  
feature: it has a plate that is like a regular plate in the front  
starting in the bottom of the pinblock and continues down the floor to  
the back of the piano up to the back of the pinblock (it weights a  
ton!!!), but there are no sympathetic strings as you mention, it is  
just a support job. Another interesting feature of this plate that I  
never seen nor heard before is that the soundboard is suspended to the  
plate by bolts! I will also mention that the soundboard is very  
little, it doesn't cover the whole size of the cage.
I'll gladly send pictures, but I don't know how to upload them. I've  
tried in the past and didn't work. I'll try anyway!
Second, I thought about the tension that you mention and that's why I  
asked for help from you experts. I've restrung many pianos, but never  
this old! The thing is that it is in VERY good shape and the scale  
that it had with these thickness and tension was tuned at 440! which  
amused me...
Third I don't think I'll have the time to send you the speaking  
lenghts because I'm working against the clock... I'll try what Patrik  
Draine suggested that I should contact Stainway for advice.
I made a mistake: there is no 17 1/2, so there is a gap from 16 1/2 to  
18...

Thanks again,

Rafael Huberman


On 26/08/2009, at 01:09 p.m., Joseph Garrett wrote:


All,
One thing that I forgot to mention with my previous post: Steinway,  
during that time did not have adequate piano wire, just like the rest  
of the piano world. It was a bit better than the Iron Wire of earlier  
decades, but still sub-standard compared to our modern wires. Hence,  
the darned stuff was softer and the scale was a much lower tension  
average. A wire size of, for example, #13 had a far lower breaking  
strength than our modern size #13. The overall structure of the piano  
was not built for the higher tensions even of the 1890's! All this  
boils down to is that great caution should be used when restringing  
the early instruments. A proper Scale Evaluation with several Special  
Parameters used to assure that the very OLD structure will not be  
compromised. (i.e. make sure the darned thing won't Self-Destruct!!)
Regards,
Joe

Joe Garrett, R.P.T. (Oregon)
Captain, Tool Police
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