[pianotech] i'll take a pass - leg bolt question

[Isaac Sadigursky]

Hi, Ron!   Baldwin  Leg Bolt thread size is  1/2-13  NC, the length   
of threaded part of the Machine bolt is 3" for legs, 2 7/8' for pedal  
lyre.... T-nut has square shape on top and is attached with 4 round  
head screws #6.....  Woodworkers Catalog has  the T-nuts,I got mine  
from Baldwin a few years  ago,had to deal with a similar scenario...   
If you will need T-nuts,call me... Good luck... Isaac
On Aug 21, 2009, at 5:47 PM, Ron Nossaman wrote:

> Owen Greyling wrote:
>> Then you need a method to avoid “bad vibes”. An idea that I’m sure  
>> is not original with me, is to offer a price range over the phone.  
>> I have always disliked the “feeling” that occurs when the piano  
>> presented to the tuner, is not in the shape or condition presented  
>> in the original conversation. I don’t get “that feeling” anymore.  
>> Remember friends, that whenever YOU are working, somebody is  
>> paying. When you are both working and paying, it gets old really  
>> quickly. The freedom that you have when you offer a price range is  
>> that you already have the permission to be flexible with what  
>> service level you perform. Try it, you will love it!
>> Respectfully,
>> Owen
>
> Good advice, right up to the time you walk in and find something you  
> wouldn't think to put on the contingency list. I showed up at an  
> appointment the other day, expecting a pitch raise and tuning on a  
> Baldwin grand. That part was accurate enough, as it turned out, but  
> for the "by the way". The piano had been "movered". That's not just  
> moved, but done unto by the moverzillas some beyond the expected  
> minimal relocation trauma. He asked if it was supposed to wobble  
> like that, as he demonstrated. Well, no, it's not. I found at least  
> a couple of leg bolts that weren't tight. One wouldn't tighten  
> because it was either a thread mismatch, or cross threaded, and the  
> threads were chewed up beyond function. Another had been forced to  
> the point that it was spinning in the nut, and would neither go in,  
> or out. One lyre brace was half off, screwed to the lyre but not the  
> keybed, and one lyre bolt was missing altogether. All this wasn't  
> apparently considered to be important enough to merit mention as  
> being outside the base tuning service requirements when they called.  
> Never mind by what state of alleged mind anyone would lunge on a  
> stuck bolt to the degree that would do such damage without an  
> inkling that something might not be exactly right here. So I get to  
> see what I can come up with to put legs and lyre back on the thing  
> in their living room. It's a model B (I think), that has the single  
> screw holding the music desk down to the plate at the bass break.  
> Does anyone know that the original thread was for the leg bolts in  
> these things? Otherwise, I get to fabricate parts (which will likely  
> be necessary anyway).
> Ron N