OT Victor Borge - the Piano Tuner (Israel)

[Tom Sivak]

Right, there's another clue!   How could you even mic
all those pianos so that they sound exactly the same;
same ambience, same tone, same volume.  

One million dollars still says the sound is dubbed in.

Tom Sivak
Chicago
--- David Ilvedson <ilvey at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> When was that made?   Did the technology exist to
> match the pianist's hands to the sound...or was
> Victor simply making sure he hit the notes in time
> with the piped in music?   Another clue would be the
> lack of differences from one piano to the next if
> over-dubbed....
> 
> David Ilvedson, RPT
> Pacifica, CA  94044
> 
> ----- Original message
> ----------------------------------------
> From: "Tom Sivak" <tvaktvak at sbcglobal.net>
> To: "Pianotech List" <pianotech at ptg.org>
> Received: 3/15/2008 8:06:35 AM
> Subject: RE: OT Victor Borge - the Piano Tuner
> (Israel)
> 
> 
> >Israel
> 
> >I did in fact meet Victor Borge once, on Michigan
> >Avenue in Chicago.  He really was a hero of mine
> when
> >I was growing up.  I was thrilled to see him
> standing
> >on the corner with an associate and I just wanted
> to
> >tell him that I had been watching him and enjoying
> his
> >antics since I was a child.  And, being a
> professional
> >pianist at that time in my life, I had some piano
> >music with me, and I thought I'd have him autograph
> >one of my pieces of music.   Perhaps a
> conversation,
> >just pianist to pianist, might ensue!  
> 
> >Unfortunately, he was brusque, nearly rude to me.  
> I
> >handed him the piece of music to sign;  you'd think
> he
> >might say.   He took it, signed it, and walked away
> >from me before I could get a word out.
> 
> >Now, that's not why I am certain that the sound was
> >dubbed in.  
> 
> >Even Chico Marx's piano work in the films was
> dubbed
> >in later.  At least with Chico, he did actually
> play
> >everything you see in the film and performed his
> >routines live.  But if you look closely enough, you
> >can see him hit a crack that is not heard in the
> audio
> >track;  other things vary slightly, either in
> timing
> >or in the actual notes you hear versus what you
> see.  
> >It was dubbed in later, just to make it perfect.  
> 
> >But this Victor Borge video clip, as entertaining
> as
> >it is, is pure fraud.  There's no way that what
> you're
> >hearing was produced at the same time as what you
> see.
> > The million dollar offer still stands.
> 
> >Tom Sivak
> >Chicago
> 
> >--- Israel Stein <custos3 at comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> >> 
> >> >
> >> >Subject: RE: OT Victor Borge - the Piano Tuner
> >> >Message: 2
> >> >
> >> >Don
> >> >
> >> >It was the last two pianos at the far end of the
> >> room
> >> >from the camera that led me to believe it was
> >> dubbed
> >> >in.  He sat at the piano on the right and
> reached
> >> >behind to play octave A's on the piano behind
> him
> >> at
> >> >the end of each phrase.
> >> >
> >> >No one, not Victor Borge, not Horowitz, could
> reach
> >> >blindly behind himself and strike octave A's
> >> cleanly,
> >> >twice in a row.  I don't care how much he
> >> practiced,
> >> >unless he has eyes in the back of his head, that
> >> was
> >> >dubbed in.
> >> >
> >> >The rest of it also looked dubbed in to me.  The
> >> >cavalier way in which he'd strike the chords as
> he
> >> >went from piano to piano.  There was no care at
> the
> >> >last moment to strike the right keys.  It was
> all
> >> for
> >> >show.
> >> 
> >> Tom,
> >> 
> >> Have you ever met Victor Borge in person? Did you
> >> ever spend any time 
> >> around him? He cultivated that "off-hand" manner.
> At
> >> the piano, 
> >> backstage, out and about - his public persona was
> an
> >> endless 
> >> progression of off-hand gags, one after the
> other. I
> >> wouldn't bet the 
> >> mortgage if I were you - never mind $1,000,000.
> >> 
> >> Israel Stein
> >> 
> >> >I'd bet a million dollars on it.
> >> >
> >> >Tom Sivak
> >> >Chicago
> >> >--- Don Mannino <donmannino at ca.rr.com> wrote:
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
>