CA Glue for pin blocks

[Brian Doepke]

I have learned a lot, and look forward to learning more, from this list.  J

 

From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf
Of Jonathan Best
Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 1:14 AM
To: Pianotech List
Subject: Re: CA Glue for pin blocks

 

Thank you Fenton and everyone else for some great thinking!  This particular
piano that I'm referencing has pins that are marginal in my opinion whereas
another tuner feels that they are fine.  so from the feedback that I am
hearing it looks like CA is the way to go and I don't have to worry about
wrecking a recoverable pin block like I would if I used Pin-Tite.  This list
is great!  I think I'll stay a while.

 

Thanks again.

  

Jonathan Best

jb at bubblemusic.com

928-830-4887

www.bubblemusic.com

 





 

On Jun 3, 2008, at 9:49 PM, Fenton Murray wrote:





Jonathan,

IMO if a piano will not stay in tune because of loose pins, re-stringing
with out a new block would not be a wise move. In other words, you've got
nothing to loose by trying some CA. The only time I would re-string an old
block would be if the torque on the original pins was still good.

Fenton

----- Original Message -----

From: Jonathan Best <mailto:jb at bubblemusic.com> 

To: Pianotech List <mailto:pianotech at ptg.org> 

Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 8:27 AM

Subject: Re: CA Glue for pin blocks

 

Thank you to everyone for sharing your experience.  My concern is not so
much whether it will work but rather whether will it destroy a good pin
block.  I've seen too many pin blocks ruined by Pin Tite.  I guess my
question is, if it doesn't work can I still go ahead and re-pin?  

 

Jonathan Best

jb at bubblemusic.com

928-830-4887

www.bubblemusic.com

 

On Jun 3, 2008, at 7:23 AM, Matthew Todd wrote:





What consistency of CA do we find works the best?

Dean May <deanmay at pianorebuilders.com> wrote:

I've never used CA glue on tuning pinns and wouldn't recoomend doing so.. I
know a technician who has with disasterous results.

Hi Alicia

You should expand your sample. I bet for every tech you could come up with
that had disastrous results there are several dozen with excellent results.
My personal results with CA have been excellent.

On the other hand, my personal results with Pin Tite have been hugely
disappointing. I found it to only work in 50% of the cases and in many of
those cases only for 2-4 years. You also find the old grands with severely
stained pin fields showing many applications of dope over the years. Those
pianos typically have very spongy pins and will respond very poorly to pin
tite treatment. They will, however, respond with excellent results to CA
treatment.

I suggest you try it! You'll like it! J

2 oz apply with hypo oiler.

Dean

Dean May             cell 812.239.3359

PianoRebuilders.com   812.235.5272

Terre Haute IN  47802


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From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf
Of A E
Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 10:12 PM
To: Pianotech List
Subject: RE: CA Glue for pin blocks

Johnathan, 
 
Not you're not repeating yourself...
I've never used CA glue on tuning pinns and wouldn't recoomend doing so.. I
know a technician who has with disasterous results. I use "Pin Tite" myself
to chemically treat pinblocks, and I must say it does wonders. It's about
$25-30 a bottle of 8oz and lasts for a few pianos. I have crossed a
Wurlitzer recently the owner told me that a technician used CA on it a bit
while ago, after trying to set the temperament I fully refused to tune the
piano, pins were jumping and every blow i gave a key, pin slipped...
 
 
Alicia


 


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To: pianotech at ptg.org
From: jb at bubblemusic.com
Subject: CA Glue for pin blocks
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 17:04:16 -0700

I'm new to this list and I'm not sure if I sent this before I was actually
signed up.  So I hope I'm not repeating myself.  Has anybody had any
experience using CA glue on pin blocks and subsequently restringing?  How do
the pins feel after a treatment?  Do they jump? How long does it last? And
if they do start losing their hold after a few years, or if the job turns
out to be one of the 10% that doesn't work, can one still go back to simply
restringing?

Thanks

Jonathan Best

Prescott, AZ

Jonathan Best

jb at bubblemusic.com

928-830-4887

www.bubblemusic.com







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