David I'm not going to engage with you when you move posts into the realm of the personal. Your first sentence I believe is clearly in that realm. I would ask however, that if you want to take a shot at me using quotes from my own posts that you dont take them out of their context and put them into another. I made myself perfectly clear in that sentence. I am also a <<people>> and express my opinions out of a sincere desire to contribute positively. Which was the tone and message contained in my post. I do not encourage tiptoeing, nor do I see where anything I have written could be even remotely interpreted that way. RicB Perhaps you should volunteer to become editor for the list postings. I don't really get any of this: rebuilders with "obvious vulnerability...". What's that? People express their opinions directly and matter of factly out of frustration, disbelief, mostly. I don't think that those with other ideas about how to approach rebuilding and design are serious threats to any major manufacturers market share. The criticisms of any manufacturer will make an impact or not based on sheer volume over time, not because something was more tastefully and diplomatically expressed. Tiptoeing around the issues and taking care not to ruffle any feathers may be more genteel but I'm not sure it's any more effective and it certainly makes for less interesting reading. David Love
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