Hi Wayne, Yep, that cover is good for "carrying" the piano as you say with no lid, etc, and is fantastic on spiral stair cases, fragile stairs, etc Pianoplan and wooden stairs... dont really mix (unless the stairs are made of nice strong oak for instance (or similar). One person can put any grand back on its legs and vicerversa on their own (i do it all the time, even with the D's, although an extra hand for those is always gratefull...). You don't need to be that strong, helps being tall (although you can use a pallet or something to stand on), having the right technique and of course using the lyre! Pianoplan has also got a stair-roller thingy on top so that you can put an upright on n off by yourself easily, or put a grand on the trolley or viceversa, loading in the van and thus freeing the machine for the next job, etc Patrick > I have been following this great thread on moving pianos. There is a > company > here in Nova Scotia, Canada who move piano sometimes without a skid. They > had special padded covers made that will accommodate different size > grands. > I have seen it used on a grand going down stairs. The lid needs to be > remove. The bag has handles in all of the right places and works really > well. > > How is the Pianoplan on softwood and hardwood stair treads? With the > treads, > I would think the treads would get damage. Do you still need help getting > the piano set back up on its legs? > > Wayne Walker > Piano Tuner & Technician > MUSICSTOP LTD > 1005 Dow Rd, New Minas, NS > B4N 3R4 > Cell 902-221-1540 > Fax 902-681-1463 > wayne.w@musicstop.com <mailto:wayne.w@musicstop.com> > www.musicstop.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: PIANISSIMO PIANOFORTE S.L. [mailto:patrick@pianospianissimo.com] > Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 1:44 PM > To: ilvey@sbcglobal.net; Pianotech List > Subject: Re: piano moving technique (pianoplan machine) > > > Its easy to see the financial benefits! Plus let's say i'm collecting a > grand after a concert at midnight... don't have to rely on people being > available, and obviously havent got to pay them! pianoplan doesn't take > much feeding either (just re-charging batteries after a few days of heavy > use) and of course is always on time for work (as long as I am :)) > > Yes we do move with one person (my dad and I actually make 2 removal > "teams" with a machine n a van each) > > It is mainly for stairs, but we do use it with the D's if there is more > than 1step at a time, and with most pianos if there are more than 4-5 > steps (unless we are feeling like a bit of excersice!) > > Its got 2 rollers that lift the machine to manuever in stair landings > which are also used to move in flat so its quicker than with the > "caterpillars"... > > Can send some more pics if any wants to see > > we have the 2 D's on hire tomorrow (6 9fters on stage at the same time!) > so it should be amusing to see all of the grands on the machines being > moved at once (at least one of the other guys that are supplying have > pianoplan as well) will definitely get some pics of that! > > Patrick > > >> $15,000...average about $150 US for a piano move...100 moves and its >> paid >> for...;-] Good tax write off though...I would imagine you only use >> this >> on moves with stairs? Unless the thing moves pretty quickly (doesn't >> look like it) it wouldn't make sense for a regular move...1 or 2 steps >> or >> less...? >> Patrick, you move with one person now? >> >> David Ilvedson, RPT >> Pacifica, California >> >> >> >> ----- Original message ---------------------------------------- >> From: "PIANISSIMO PIANOFORTE S.L." <patrick@pianospianissimo.com> >> To: "Pianotech List" <pianotech@ptg.org> >> Received: 2/6/2006 5:26:20 AM >> Subject: Re: piano moving technique (pianoplan machine) >> >> >>>Paid about 13.000EUR for ours last year(it has actually dropped in >>> price, >>>as the first one we bought was a bit more expensive, and that was 8yrs >>>ago) >> >>>Certainly worth every cent. Once you have it you'll regret not having >>>bought it before! Also, they do last, the older one we have still goes >>>like the first day and i know people that have been using one for many >>>years... >> >>>Patrick >> >>>P.S.: it equals to 15.000USD >> >> >>>> Any one know how much one of these cost? >>>> Tom Servinsky >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Cy Shuster" <cy@shusterpiano.com> >>>> To: <ilvey@sbcglobal.net>; "Pianotech List" <pianotech@ptg.org> >>>> Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2006 11:35 PM >>>> Subject: Re: piano moving technique (pianoplan machine) >>>> >>>> >>>>> http://www.daytonhk.com/index/pianoplan/p2.htm >>>>> >>>>> --Cy-- >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "David Ilvedson" <ilvey@sbcglobal.net> >>>>> To: <pianotech@ptg.org> >>>>> Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2006 10:49 PM >>>>> Subject: Re: piano moving technique (pianoplan machine) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>I think I missed this "machine"...what are we talking about? >>>>>> >>>>>> David Ilvedson, RPT >>>>>> Pacifica, California >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Pianotech list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Pianotech list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives >>>> >> >> >>>Patrick Hinves Ballesta >>>Afinador/Técnico 610442371 >>>PIANISSIMO PIANOFORTE S.L. >> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>Pianotech list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives >> _______________________________________________ >> Pianotech list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives >> > > > Patrick Hinves Ballesta > Afinador/Técnico 610442371 > PIANISSIMO PIANOFORTE S.L. > > > ---------------------------------------- > I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. > It has removed 3416 spam emails to date. > Paying users do not have this message in their emails. > Try www.SPAMfighter.com for free now! > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.2/252 - Release Date: 2/6/06 > > > _______________________________________________ > Pianotech list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives > Patrick Hinves Ballesta Afinador/Técnico 610442371 PIANISSIMO PIANOFORTE S.L.
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