Cy wrote: Using the car analogy, one that you just bought new is a "stock" or "showroom" Steinway: all original. Modifications may improve it, or not, depending on the modifier, may improve performance at the expense of reliability (in cars, anyway), and may invalidate a warranty. But in car racing, "showroom stock" is the slowest of the performance classes. -------------------------------------- Hi Cy. I aggree with your thinking here. I like to think in terms of <<change>> instead of "detriment", "enhancement"... what have you. The buying public can make up its own mind what it likes or doesnt... grin.. and they will anyways. Lots of folks would see a soosed-up car as anything but an improvement. Gass milage, noise, their own sense of visual esthetics, safety concerns... what have you. Lots of others are jazzed about any thing that goes faster, looks flashier, makes more growl. To each their own yes ? Seems to me the measure of how "good" a product is basically boils down to what degree the product is true to the design and intentions of the builder. Cheers RicB
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