---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment Norma, Keep at it. It takes many pianos before you feel adept at aural tuning. I guarantee you, though, that you will eventually like it, and maybe even use it as your primary method. Many of us on this list have done both, and continue to do both. The more tools you have in the toolkit, the more situations you'll feel comfortable in. Practice, practice, practice, and then practice. If there is a store with a rental fleet that you can work on, leave your ETD at home, take your fork, and go for it. Bring Potter and/or Reblitz along, use the recommended sequences, and do it till you're blue in the ears. Many more experienced techs think that beginners should spend hundreds of hours tuning BEFORE using an ETD. I think that an ETD can be a valuable tutor, if used correctly. But if one becomes overly reliant on the ETD, it can backfire, as you found out. Just as meteorologists often use radar in lieu of their most obvious and reliable instruments--windows and eyes--tuners sometimes forget to use theirs--the ears! Good luck. If you have limited patience, as you've said, this is a good way to learn that, as well. Dave Stahl In a message dated 11/2/2005 7:12:49 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, normajneufeld@shaw.ca writes: Hello List, I have about 1 year of experience in this job (including my study time!) and things are going very well. I quit my full time job a few months ago, got a part time and fill the rest with piano work. I'm getting lots of referrals and everyone seems pleased with my work. So far so good. When I started studying this art I bought a high end ETD and concentrated on my technique and other things like repairs, regulating and voicing, thinking that the aural stuff will come later. I of course always listen to my unisons, octaves and other aural checks, but have yet to set a temperament. Late this afternoon I was half way through a pitch raise on a Yamaha at a school and my ETD kind of crashed. I panicked. There was no one around to reschedule (not to mention they've already paid me for this tuning and the one I'm doing tomorrow, so it would look really bad if I just left), I couldn't find my mentor, (lost your cell again RJ?), I tried everything I could think of to fix the ETD. Luckily I got ahold of another tech in the city that uses the same one and he was able to help me. Crisis averted. I have been meaning to learn to tune aurally but I guess it was put on the back burner because I've been busy and my business has been growing nicely. Now I realize that I must learn, and soon. If any one has any advice on this I'd sure appreciate it. (I have the Randy Potter course but I'd like other options and opinions.) Where do I start? Tune with 3rds and 6ths and check with 4ths and 5ths or the other way around? Recommeded sequence? Any other tips? I think I need some help. Thanks very much, Norma Neufeld Sasktoon, SK ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/pianotech.php/attachments/e4/b8/3d/72/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment--
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