---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment On 23-jan-05, at 3:35, Joe Garrett wrote: > Ron O. said: "They get quite good results from pp to mf, but at > the higher output levels their designs don't seem > to cope very well." > =A0 > Ron, > Yahoo! I'm so happy to hear someone else say that! I hate Bozies for=20= > that reason. To put it in "musician's terms"....No Balls! They tend to=20= > get all garbled and muddy at any level over mf, IMO. Beautifully made=20= > instrument that is ideal in a "Chamber Music" setting. But, filling a=20= > large, (read poor acoustical cavern), hall, it falls on it's butt,=20 > IMHO! > Best Regards, > > > > Joe Garrett, R.P.T. > Captain, Tool Police > Squares R I > But Joe, please allow me to say something... If that's your opinion about THE B=F6sendorfer grand, then how can it be=20= that at the same time I am of the opinion that B=F6sendorfers can make = an=20 awful lot of sound? I think we all agree that there is a difference between for instance=20 THE Steinway sound and the sound of other brands and we all=20 instinctively know what that difference is. The Steinway was built with=20= pure power in mind. Every technical aspect of it points to the idea of=20= creating tension and power, resulting in that booming Steinway we know=20= so well. For that reason, it has always surprised me that, although not with the=20= same intensity and built differently, other brands are also capable of=20= a roar. Again, the transfer of power IS different and certainly not as=20 efficient as the Steinway, but take for instance a good CFIII-S like=20 the one built for Richter. Man, that was quite a machine! How about a=20 well prepared Schimmel concert grand, a Kawai (although we hardly see=20 them here), even a Petrof concert grand and... the B=F6sendorfer concert=20= grand. I was for training at one time at B=F6sendorfer in Wien and I fell=20 deeply in love with not only the character, but also with the warmth=20 and the thundering power. Don't tell me that a B=F6sendorfer can not = cope=20 with a symphony orchestra. They sure can, but I think it is purely a=20 matter of preparation, the regulation and the VOICING. I have had the interesting educational experience that if you make a=20 Steinway D very beautiful, voicing wise, the instrument can not cope=20 anymore with an orchestra. When I experienced that for the first time,=20= I was so embarrassed and worked all night long to improve the=20 (percussive) power. Two days later, there was the next piano concert=20 and then I was able to really hear and feel the sound of the D. A week=20= later of more work, and it had become a booming canon. In Wien, almost all the concert halls have B=F6sendorfers, obviously you=20= might say, but they sure are not made of wax. I remember working on a Concert B=F6sendorfer here in Amsterdam. It was=20= brought in by B=F6sendorfer because the National Austrian Orchestra=20 wanted to have a pitch of 445 Hz! I tuned it a couple of times to bring=20= it up to the desired pitch and was amazed that evening by the power and=20= clarity. See, that event got me thinking about how it can be that although this=20= instrument differs so completely from Steinways, it still has that=20 thundering power... in spite of spruce OUTER rims. (!) It is my personal experience that a well trained technician can make=20 any instrument into a roaring dinosaur but within limits. I have=20 listened to Richter on his famous Yamaha and there were moments where I=20= began to doubt the ability of the treble to transfer that molest,=20 because Richter could be a piano lion himself. Nevertheless, the Yamaha=20= stood up against the violence and did not even get out of tune (wow). So I have come to the conclusion that very much depends on the=20 technician, whether he/she is able to cope with the instrument. I think=20= that is actually the most difficult task : to tame a lion so that it=20 will lick your paws and mew for milk. friendly greetings from Andr=E9 Oorebeek Vita Dura Est ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: text/enriched Size: 4562 bytes Desc: not available Url : https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/pianotech.php/attachments/d1/c2/c5/3c/attachment.bin ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment--
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