Let's Get This Settled was How to explain a pitch adjustment..and!

[Alan Barnard]

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It always frightens me to think there is anyone else out there with my sense of humor! 

As an employee of mine once said: "Alan, your mind is always traveling about Warp 8 ... but do you have any idea where it's headed?"

I had to answer, "No."

Alan Barnard
Salem, Missouri
----- Original Message ----- 
From: carl teplitski 
To: tune4u@earthlink.net;Pianotech
Sent: 12/22/2005 11:08:30 AM 
Subject: Re: Let's Get This Settled was How to explain a pitch adjustment..and!



Hey Allan  .  .   laughed so loud my wife came into my office to see who was in here with me, or whatinell 
I was doing, after I read your opening statement, (ain't challingin nobody on nuttin ).  My old heart skipped
a couple of beats, and can't get the dumb smile off my face.( Priceless humor. Thank you.) Not only that,but
you make alot of sense with your other remarks as well.  Looking to reading more about this subject , because
it's one that requires some imagination , to be able to convey to a none tech. what actually happens when we
pitch raise.  I use the one re. paint on a plaster wall.  If a plaster wall hasn't seen paint for 20 years , the first coat
will probably be sucked into the wall very quickly, so a 2nd. and sometimes a 3rd. coat is necssary to finally
reach the correct color. Problem here is that many people can't understand that international music has a standard,
and pianos are engineered to sound their best at that pitch. It does take some effort on our part to try to educate
the public , and a lot guys get tired of going thru this harangue each time they find a piano needing pitch correction,
so they can justify charging for the extra work in going thru a least two passes, rather than one.  I know I do.

Carl / Winnipeg











Alan Barnard wrote:

Terry's post begs the question (and please understand I ain't challingin'
nobody on nuttin' ... I'm just seeking information and opinions and
science, here) ...

Do a piano really need time to "settle" after ..

1. Big pitch change?
2. Small pitch change?
3. Moving it across country? (other than environmental acclimation)
4  Moving it across the room?

I have been under the impression--and it may be altogether wacky--that
every change that is going to occur in the piano occurs immediatly upon
cranking the pin. I thought someone (Dr. Sanderson, perhaps) tested this
and proved it.

So an adjunct question: Let's say we find a piano 15 cents flat. We pitch
correct and fine tune and walk out the door with a follow-up appointment
set for three months. When that day arrives, for those who have set such
appointments, is the piano any flatter or more sour than it would have been
if we found it A440 but still came back in three months?

Same question, only now the piano was originally 35 cents flat. 60 cents?
120 cents?

Certainly I've restrung pianos and found them pretty sick in a couple of
months but have always attributed that to new wire stretch, not tension
settling.

Helmet on, raincoat on, rubber duckie in hand, I await your missives, if
not missiles ...

Alan Barnard
Salem, Missouri


  
[Original Message]
From: pianolover 88 <pianolover88@hotmail.com>
To: <pianotech@ptg.org>
Date: 12/20/2005 6:24:24 PM
Subject: Re: How to explain a pitch adjustment..and!

Depending on the amount of PR, ususally more than 12C, I always schedule
    
a 
  
"follow-up" tuning in 1-3 months, explaining that after restoring all
    
that 
  
loststring tension, the piano now must "settle" and adjust to that added 
tension, and it some shifting of will occur. So the follow-up is crucial
    
in 
  
building long term stabilty. And that tuning will leave the piano much
    
more 
  
stable because tuning pin movement will be much smaller than during the 
initial PR and tuning. Again, never a problem. Yes, it does help to have
    
a 
  
high confidence level and be able to effectively communicate and impart 
information to your client in a clearand concice manner. I am a salesman
    
as 
  
well as a technician; that has made the difference between just getting
    
by 
  
to making a six figures.

Terry Peterson
    


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