Let's Get This Settled was How to explain a pitchadjustment..and!

[hubert liverman]

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  Just a humble gift to attempt to repay to all who given so freely =
their daily advise concerning  our "craft and sullen art" this year. The =
analogy is, pitchadjustment is playing pin the tail on the donkey =
...except the donkey is on a carousel. H    mmer voicing is bobbing for =
apples.

Hubert Liverman


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  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Alan Barnard=20
  To: Pianotech=20
  Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 12:19 PM
  Subject: Re: Let's Get This Settled was How to explain a =
pitchadjustment..and!


  It always frightens me to think there is anyone else out there with my =
sense of humor!=20

  As an employee of mine once said: "Alan, your mind is always traveling =
about Warp 8 ... but do you have any idea where it's headed?"

  I had to answer, "No."

  Alan Barnard
  Salem, Missouri
      ----- Original Message -----=20
      From: carl teplitski=20
      To: tune4u@earthlink.net;Pianotech
      Sent: 12/22/2005 11:08:30 AM=20
      Subject: Re: Let's Get This Settled was How to explain a pitch =
adjustment..and!



      Hey Allan  .  .   laughed so loud my wife came into my office to =
see who was in here with me, or whatinell=20
      I was doing, after I read your opening statement, (ain't =
challingin nobody on nuttin ).  My old heart skipped
      a couple of beats, and can't get the dumb smile off my face.( =
Priceless humor. Thank you.) Not only that,but
      you make alot of sense with your other remarks as well.  Looking =
to reading more about this subject , because
      it's one that requires some imagination , to be able to convey to =
a none tech. what actually happens when we
      pitch raise.  I use the one re. paint on a plaster wall.  If a =
plaster wall hasn't seen paint for 20 years , the first coat
      will probably be sucked into the wall very quickly, so a 2nd. and =
sometimes a 3rd. coat is necssary to finally
      reach the correct color. Problem here is that many people can't =
understand that international music has a standard,!=20
      and pianos are engineered to sound their best at that pitch. It =
does take some effort on our part to try to educate
      the public , and a lot guys get tired of going thru this harangue =
each time they find a piano needing pitch correction,
      so they can justify charging for the extra work in going thru a =
least two passes, rather than one.  I know I do.

      Carl / Winnipeg











      Alan Barnard wrote:

Terry's post begs the question (and please understand I ain't =
challingin'
nobody on nuttin' ... I'm just seeking information and opinions and
science, here) ...

Do a piano really need time to "settle" after ..

1. Big pitch change?
2. Small pitch change?
3. Moving it across country? (other than environmental acclimation)
4  Moving it across the room?

I have been under the impression--and it may be altogether wacky--that
every change that is going to occur in the piano occurs immediatly upon
cranking the pin. I thought someone (Dr. Sanderson, perhaps) tested this
and proved it.

So an adjunct question: Let's say we find a piano 15 cents flat. We =
pitch
correct and fine tune and walk out the door with a follow-up appointment
set for three months. When that day arrives, for those who have set such
appointments, is the piano any flatter or more sour than it would have =
been
if we found it A440 but still came back in three months?

Same question, only now the piano was originally 35 cents flat. 60 =
cents?
120 cents?

Certainly I've restrung pianos and found them pretty sick in a couple of
months but have always attributed that to new wire stretch, not tension
settling.

Helmet on, raincoat on, rubber duckie in hand, I await your missives, if
not missiles ...

Alan Barnard
Salem, Missouri


  [Original Message]
From: pianolover 88 <pianolover88@hotmail.com>
To: <pianotech@ptg.org>
Date: 12/20/2005 6:24:24 PM
Subject: Re: How to explain a pitch adjustment..and!

Depending on the amount of PR, ususally more than 12C, I always schedule
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  "follow-up" tuning in 1-3 months, explaining that after restoring all
    that=20
  loststring tension, the piano now must "settle" and adjust to that =
added=20
tension, and it some shifting of will occur. So the follow-up is crucial
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  building long term stabilty. And that tuning will leave the piano much
    more=20
  stable because tuning pin movement will be much smaller than during =
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initial PR and tuning. Again, never a problem. Yes, it does help to have
    a=20
  high confidence level and be able to effectively communicate and =
impart=20
information to your client in a clearand concice manner. I am a salesman
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  well as a technician; that has made the difference between just =
getting
    by=20
  to making a six figures.

Terry Peterson
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