---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment HI Ed By the way thanks for the usual & thoro in depth reply. Dale Erwin Inre False Beating, Dale writes: << Or as I said in my previous post that nothing you do short of changing the false, overly stretched & deformed string will help. Any body out there tried this remedy? Or are we only going to consider the bridge pin /ca gule otion? >> I have replaced strings that were beating so falsely that I couldn't tune them, and the brand new wire had the same problem! I have taken the bridge pins out and renotched and repinned a note on a bridge and put the old wire back up to tension and the falseness was gone. I assume I didn't pull the wire back exactly to its original position, so there had to be some deformity in the speaking lengths. Didn't seem to matter. The note was far cleaner than before. I have gotten the same results from everything I have tried with false beating strings. Seating the strings with a very light tap sometimes makes a big change, and sometimes nothing. Sometimes a tap on the bridge pin solves all problems. Sometimes new wire helps. I have several high notes on a concert piano here that are untuneable. When I address this over the break, I will not waste time on trying to see what particular remedy works. The first thing to try is one drop of super thin CA at the base of the bridge pin. Not because this has any historical weight behind it, but rather, because for the investment of time, this gives, by far, the best chance the falseness will stop. If that doesn't help, then I go ahead and do everything. I will, instead, check the bearing, remove the wire and renotch. I will either repin the bridge for that note or treat the wood before driving the originals back it. I will inspect as well as fondle the capo bar, searching for anything amiss. I restring it. If it still sounds like before, I check for nearly sympathetic lengths in the backscale. Sometimes there is a need to "detune" an aliquot's note, which I do with a slight kink in the duplex length. I tune it around some, seeing what extraneous woes can be cancelled by controlled mis-tuning. Then I move on, no need being a damn fool about it. False beats are a fact of a tuners life. They take more of a toll on the beginning tuner seeking perfection than the older one who knows when to quit. Hope all have a happy Christmas, Kwanzaa, Hanukah, whatever boat you are floating in. Ed Foote RPT http://www.uk-piano.org/edfoote/index.html www.uk-piano.org/edfoote/well_tempered_piano.html ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/pianotech.php/attachments/b8/2d/c1/ff/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment--
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