I'm not talking about the quality of the hammer, I'm talking about the density (and weight). Nor am I talking about what can be done in terms of overdriving a soundboard, but what tends to happen. A soft light hammer can, of course, be manipulated by hardening to overdrive a soundboard, but put a light Ronsen Bacon felt hammer on that old Chickering quarter grand and a Renner Wurzen designed for a Hamburg Steinway and then tell me that the Wurzen isn't overdriving that board no matter how much needling you do or that the Ronsen hammer will keep things under control much more easily. This may be an extreme example but similar examples abound. Many, if not most, of the pianos out there have soundboards that, due to age or method of manufacture, are easily overdriven, and I'm talking about Steinway, Bechstein, Mason Hamlin, and many other "quality" pianos. I think McMorrow's ideas often work because of this. A lighter hammer (and softer in my opinion) will sound better on a soundboard that has long ago moved along the line from controlled attack, long sustain to uncontrolled attack, short sustain and, conversely, a denser hammer (to a point) will sound better on a piano that has controlled the impedance problems and delivered a stiff but responsive assembly--one that may need, or certainly tolerate, being driven harder. And while I agree that terminations are best dealt with at the point of termination, a softer hammer can sometimes cause less extrusion of the string and mitigate termination problems that might not be able to be addressed without restringing or redesign. The bottom line is that you can't force quality tone into a piano by using a so-called "quality" hammer (which is not to disparage Ronsen hammers, they are quality hammers too) if it isn't there to begin with. All you can really do is to get the best the piano has to offer. Frequently that necessitates using a hammer that is softer than you might ordinarily use and building up the density just short of the point where the piano can handle it. But to each his own, that's why they make chocolate and vanilla. David Love davidlovepianos@comcast.net -----Original Message----- From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] On Behalf Of Richard Brekne Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2004 10:25 AM To: Pianotech Subject: Re: Evidence of overlacquered hammers David Love wrote: >There are a number of factors that should come into play when choosing a >hammer for a particular piano. The condition of the belly is a crucial >one that is often neglected. People tend to pick a single type of >hammer because that is what they are familiar with or because they like >the supplier, the price or the name. My experience suggests that >certain hammers are simply inappropriate for certain pianos. An old >tired soundboard, for example, will not benefit from a very hard pressed >and/or heavy hammer that requires a lot of needling. > If I understand this correctly, I can only say that my experience does not concur. I have never run into a situation where a soundboard did not respond well to high quality hammers of the sort that need needling. Nor can I say I've ever run into a piano whoes sounboard could be overdriven by one type of hammer and not another. True enough hammers can be too massive, but there is nothing to suggest that this can over drive a panel IMHO. At some point the hammer simply can not be made to transfer any more energy to the panel to begin with due to action compliance issues. I suspect in this that Ed McMorrow is far more correct then wrong in this regard when he maintains that much lighter hammers can do the same job as heavier ones exactly because of this compliance issue, and because they are more easily accelerated to maximum velocity. I also have to raise the point that very much has been made by various contributers arguing in support of the lacquer technique that it makes no difference to begin with from an acoustic point of view which type of hammer is used. If that is so then the above is in confict and one or the other must simply give way to the real truth of the matter... whatever that be. Said another way... the type of hammer used can not on the one hand be so inconsequential and then on the other hand cause a soundboard to go into overdrive. Thirdly... I would point out that I do not subscribe to useing ... to quote "very hard pressed and/or heavy hammer that requires a lot of needling" I use hammers that are moderate weighted hammers appropriatly pressed so that a reasonable amount of needling results in a concentration of energy at the striking point and a natural felt resiliancy at the level I choose I also believe that problems with terminations are delt with from the standpoint of the termination itself being addressed, not trying to select a set of hammers that allows one to avoid bettering such problems. All this said... I have to repeat what I have said many times. Those whose tastes lead them to prefer the different sound characteristics that lacquered hammers neccessarilly impart are valuable assets to the general diversity of our buisness.... especially those few who are true masters of the technique. That I personally do not find the sound of said hammers appealing is inconsequential in that regard. Cheers RicB _______________________________________________ pianotech list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives
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