<<Terry, I truly feel sorry for your gross ignorance and "pie-in-the-sky" naivety. I hope you take off your blinders soon and face reality. David Ilvedson>> You truly show your obvious lack of creativity when you have to plagerize my post, then sign your name to it. Sad. Terry Peterson ----Original Message Follows---- From: David Ilvedson <ilvey@sbcglobal.net> Reply-To: ilvey@sbcglobal.net, Pianotech <pianotech@ptg.org> To: <pianotech@ptg.org> Subject: Re: OT Politicals Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 11:16:20 -0700 Terry, I truly feel sorry for your gross ignorance and "pie-in-the-sky" naivety. I hope you take off your blinders soon and face reality. David Ilvedson ----- Original message ----------------------------------------> From: pianolover 88 <pianolover88@hotmail.com> To: <pianotech@ptg.org> Received: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 09:55:37 -0700 Subject: Re: OT Politicals ><<John Kerry is the prototypical American, who would have found good company >with our nation's founders. He is the very essence of a patriot. >Peace, >Sarah>> >I truly feel sorry for your gross ignorance and "pie-in-the-sky" naievity. I >hope you take off your blinders soon and face reality. >Peace >Terry Peterson >----Original Message Follows---- >From: &quot;Sarah Fox&quot; &lt;sarah@graphic-fusion.com&gt; >Reply-To: Pianotech &lt;pianotech@ptg.org&gt; >To: &quot;Pianotech&quot; &lt;pianotech@ptg.org&gt; >Subject: Re: OT Political >Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 01:44:02 -0400 >Geez Louise! >Larry, Conrad, etc.... >&quot;ANTI-AMERICAN&quot; activities? >&quot;UNPATRIOTIC?&quot; >Just what do you think patriotism is? Just what do you think it means to be >an American -- a good, loyal American? >Do you think our country was founded by docile sheep, who mindlessly >followed the dictates of King George and paid their tea taxes like good >little subjects? NO! Our country and government (like most countries and >governments) was born from a rebellion. Our founders recognized that their >government was unjust, despite the fact the &quot;law&quot; said otherwise. >This is how our founders explained themselves in a little letter to King >George, with bold facing added for emphasis: >&quot;We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created >equal...That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these >ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to >institute new Government... But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, >pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under >absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such >Government...&quot; >Our founders did not look to the law to know what was wrong and right. >Nobody had to TELL them they were being treated unjustly by Britain. These >truths were self-evident. It was therefore the DUTY of these people to >question unjust laws and policies and to rebel against them. Why was it >their duty? Very simply, they were morally obligated to correct what they >saw as being wrong with their state of affairs and the state of affairs of >their fellow colonists. They were morally charged to right what they >believed deeply to be a wrong. This is what it means to be a patriot -- to >love one's land and people enough to take the risk necessary to improve it. >Patriotism isn't about loving what your government is doing, whether it is >right or wrong. Patriotism isn't about blindly and unquestioningly >following laws that may or may not be just. These are the qualities of >sheep, not patriots. >Patriots are people like Rosa Parks, who refused to sit at the back of the >bus, knowing she would probably be arrested for defying authority. Patriots >are people like the mayors throughout this land who have defied the >&quot;Defense&quot; of Marriage Act and have married gay couples because >they believed the law to be unjust. Patriots are people like the >&quot;right to choose&quot; activists and the &quot;right to life&quot; >activists, who may be on opposite sides of the issue but both believe >fervently in their cause. Patriots are the citizen lobbyists who stream >constantly into Washington to try to change laws they feel are unjust. >Patriots are the conscientious objectors who refuse to pick up rifles and >march off to war, opting instead to go to prison if necessary, because they >feel war is wrong. Patriots are the young men and women who enlist in the >military, putting their lives on the line in service to their country. >Patriots are the Peace Corps volunteers, many/most opposed to war, who often >put their safety on the line in hostile lands in pursuit of American ideals >and for betterment of the world. Patriots are the Habitats for Humanity >volunteers who put in long, hard hours to elevate the living conditions of >the ever-growing ranks of impoverished countrymen. Patriots are the people >who run the soup kitchens for their homeless countrymen. >Patriotism isn't simply waving a flag and mindlessly saying, &quot;God bless >America.&quot; Patriotism isn't showing up at the Fourth of July parades. >Patriotism isn't voting Republican or Democratic. >True patriotism is seldom easy, and it almost never comes without sacrifice. >Certain things are UNpatriotic: It is UNpatriotic to &quot;vote for one's >pocketbook&quot; (i.e. vote out of self interest), without concern for the >ramifications for larger society. It is UNpatriotic to break the law for >personal gain. It is UNpatriotic to lie, cheat, and steal at a cost to the >well-being of one's countrymen. It is UNpatriotic not to vote. It is >UNpatriotic not to speak out when you feel something is wrong. It is >UNpatriotic to blindly obey laws you feel are morally wrong. It is >UNpatriotic to hold a public office and not use that position to fight like >hell for the betterment of America. It is UNpatriotic NOT to question >authority. It is UNpatriotic not to consider the larger implications of any >issue. It is UNpatriotic not to think. It is UNpatriotic not to act. It >is UNpatriotic to be inert -- a &quot;sheep.&quot; >It is UNpatriotic to accuse a person of being UNpatriotic or UN-American for >doing whatever his heart of hearts -- his deepest conscience -- tells him is >the right thing to do. It is UNpatriotic to accuse someone of being >anti-American, just because he doesn't conform to your point of view. (How >DARE you?!) >John Kerry is anything but unpatriotic or un-American. There's more patriot >in that man than we've seen from either major party in a long, long time! >That is the thing that most stands out about him. He passionately wants to >make this land a better place. What better thing could one say about the >man? He's not in it for the money. He's not in it to be ruler of the >world. He's not in it for the power trip. He's in it because he loves >America with all his heart. >John Kerry is the prototypical American, who would have found good company >with our nation's founders. He is the very essence of a patriot. >Peace, >Sarah >_________________________________________________________________ >Don’t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! >http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ >_______________________________________________ >pianotech list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives _______________________________________________ pianotech list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives _________________________________________________________________ Get ready for school! Find articles, homework help and more in the Back to School Guide! http://special.msn.com/network/04backtoschool.armx
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