Well said Richard...... may the VOICE be with you... *(;> )) On 20-apr-04, at 21:50, Richard Brekne wrote: > Keith McGavern wrote: > >> At 6:12 PM +0200 4/20/04, Quentin Codevelle wrote: >> >>> ... Is this Mr Isaac doing seminars in order to see how his >>> technique works? >> >>> I've never heard this technique before. >> >>> If Andre tells it is dangerous, then it must be ;-) >> >> >> Sir Quentin, >> First, welcome aboard. >> Second, I have met the man and can assure that Ari Isaac is nobody's >> fool. > > I dont think anyone would even dream of suggesting otherwise. Aris > story is a great one to read. > >> >> A thorough investigation of his method of madness for voicing, and >> its particulars will better serve you, than just accepting another's >> word at face value, even someone with incredible credentials. >> > I certainly have to agree with this statement. By all means > investigate the subject matter thoroughly. I can only say that In my > own search for the holy grail of voicing I've tried most everything. > Steam, water/alcohol, laquer of various sorts, LWHT, Stanwood Zone 60 > weights, pliers, centerpin punch (to literally rip out a 1mm Ř peice > of felt from the side), Franz Mohrs crown only method, needling > everywhich way you can think of (other then standard).... you name it. > And each time I found there was really quite a bit lacking. Oh > sometimes I was more pleased in the begining then others. The two > single best alternatives to traditional voicing I've found are a > slight twist on Rogers steam voicing, and Franz Mohrs approach. > Problem with both is premature hammer wear resulting in way too many > and aggressive filings. > > Sideways needling will definiantly quiet things down... but you loose > too much dynamics this way. Course if your set of hammers wont > respond to anything else, and you are not able to put a set of hammers > on that will... then ... welll how is it said...?? "a mans gotta do > what a mans gotta do... I'm going down there and waiste those suckers" > :) > > All that said.... I simply have to say it... when I finally decided to > try and master the traditional art... (which means accepting > useing only very high quality and appropriate hammers for that > tradition) I finally started to get the kind of results I was always > looking for. That <<Voice>> is a wholistic thing... comprised of what > hammer you select, and how you handle it. The best so far by far, the > most resiliant, most longlasting, most predictable and thereby > easiest to manipulate to a premeditated result, is when I use very > good hammers appropriate for voicing by needling and needle in the > traditional way. > Its a fascinating journey tho... so by all means take it. Try out as > much as you can until you arrive at the technique that will yeild you > <<The Voice>>... whatever that turns out to be for you personally. > >> As to whether is currently doing seminars, inquire at >> http://www.pin.ca/ari/ >> >> Sincerely, >> >> Keith >> >> -- >> > Cheers > RicB > _______________________________________________ > pianotech list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives > > friendly greetings from André Oorebeek Amsterdam - The Netherlands 0031-20-6237357 0645-492389 0031-75-6226878 www.concertpianoservice.nl www.grandpiano.nl "where music is, no harm can be"
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