Grotrian lost it's singing tone

antares antares@euronet.nl
Fri, 16 Apr 2004 23:58:45 +0200


The only reason there is, I assume, is a major difference in humidity. 
There can be no other explanation.
An instrument does not change overnight except for climatical 
conditions.

André Oorebeek


On 15-apr-04, at 14:12, Greg Newell wrote:

> André and Isaac,
>         Thank you to you both. I had been thinking along these lines. 
> I have suggested a Piano Lifesaver system to the music director and he 
> is hesitating because he doesn't want to see a cord hanging. My 
> assurances of a good, clean installation did no good. I also am 
> thinking of simply waiting out the "break in" period. I would hate to 
> see the director with egg on his face after somehow obtaining a 
> replacement piano only to have the same problem with it. I'm still a 
> little puzzled by the strong initial strike and then an immediate drop 
> in power. I find it difficult to describe too but perhaps picturing a 
> graph where the line starts high and shows a shelf representing the 
> strike and then an immediate drop and downward trend representing the 
> decay rate at a lower level than the strike. The only way I could 
> describe it was an out of phase reaction. Is that incorrect?
>
> Thanks Gents,
> Greg
>
>
>
>
>
> At 03:22 AM 4/15/2004, you wrote:
>> I confirm good results of DC system in a too humid (75%) place, the
>> tone was really mushy, the board crowned, the keybed flatten, was a
>> small Bechstein M in that case.
>> The installation of DC saved the piano from this in a very short time.
>>
>> It is actually tuned once a year (last time the pitch drop was 0,3
>> cts ) The piano is not used extensively but regularly and often , as
>> it is ought by a composer.
>>
>> I did not use the humidifier part, as it was not necessary. I
>> installed 3 rods (1 under the keybed)
>> I believe that having a better wood moisture content for the keybed
>> helped as well the hammer after some time.
>>
>> Success at all levels.
>>
>> I even loose the opportunity to sell the lady new hammers , as long as
>> it aint breake ....
>>
>>
>> Best
>>
>> Isaac OLEG
>>
>>
>> -----Message d'origine-----
>> De : pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org]De la
>> part de antares
>> Envoyé : jeudi 15 avril 2004 00:39
>> À : Pianotech
>> Objet : Re: Grotrian lost it's singing tone
>>
>>
>> Hi Greg,
>>
>> I think I know what you you mean. I have had similar experiences.
>> It most probably has to do with temperature and humidity changes.
>> Hammers are typical humidity gauges : they absorb moisture or release
>> it.
>> In both cases the sound may alter dramatically.
>> And, as we all know, draft is killing an otherwise healthy and stable
>> tuning.
>> Then there is the matter of acoustics.
>> I have worked for some time in a very famous but at the same time
>> infamous concert hall and during that time I have gone through all the
>> humidity and temperature changes you can imagine, including  terrible
>> drafts and stage lights.
>>
>> In the end, you may have to just cope with the way it is and make the
>> best of it.
>> My advice would be to let the instrument adjust to the space it is in.
>> Usually instruments under those kind of circumstances become like dogs
>> that you don't allow in anymore.
>> They have to get tough staying outside all the time.
>> Just treat them fair and with kindness and hopefully they will get
>> used
>> to it.
>>
>> P.S. wait with dramatic measures and remind yourself that if the
>> instrument changes from one day to the other it has nothing to do with
>> voodoo.
>>
>>
>> friendly greetings
>> from
>> André Oorebeek
>>
>> Amsterdam -
>> The Netherlands
>>
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friendly greetings
from
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The Netherlands

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