Moving Damper Guide Rails

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From: "Richard Brekne" <Richard.Brekne@grieg.uib.no>
To: "Pianotech" <pianotech@ptg.org>
Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 5:17 PM
Subject: Re: Moving Damper Guide Rails

> > > Given all that.... do you "put" the Steinway name and decal back =
the way you
> > > found it ? Not that I object to basically totally re-designing the
> > > instrument.... but if you do.... how do you justify calling it a =
Steinway ?....
> > > It's easily as much a Trout by then eh ?
> >
> > I thought we just went through all that a while back?
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> > A 1970 Ford Mustang that has TRW 12:1 pistons, a stroked crank, a =
Wieand hi-rise aluminum manifold, a Holley 850 cfm double pumper dual =
feed carburetor, Hooker headers, Muncie wide ratio transmission, =
balanced driveshaft, 4.88 rear end gears, etc., etc., etc. is still a =
Ford Mustang.
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> Well, that might be.... and it might not... depending on your =
viewpoint. What is a VW bus with a Corvette engine then ?=20

A fast VW microbus!

And what is it if you in addition pull out the stock front suspension =
and put some other makes in ??

A funky VW microbus
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> We may have gone through all this in the past... but its a long way =
from resolved. I have a big problem accepting an instrument that does =
not have a Steinway scale, and does not employ a compression board as a =
Steinway myself. Thats not what Steinways make, and such a piano will =
not represent the Steinway sound.

Well, I would always agree that a rebuilder selling a piano that is =
modified from original should divulge changes, just as the owner of the =
VW bus should indicate that the audible rumble at the rear of the =
vehicle is a 400 h.p. 310 c.i. V8. However, I would still keep the metal =
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> > I think the only time we need consider a need for changing the name =
on a rewhatevered object is if it goes into full-scale remanufacturing =
to a set design and available at some level of large scale. Perhaps like =
the Shelby Mustang. Obviously there is some grey area there. And yes, if =
one were selling a significantly modified thingee, I feel it would be =
appropriate to tell of the modifications - but if it had a manufacturers =
sticker on it before, I think generally it is A-ok to put the sticker =
back.
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> Like you say... there is a grey area. What I dont understand about all =
this is the hesitancy of some rebuilders to take full credit for their =
modifications.

Have to agree with you here for sure. Why would someone not want someone =
to be aware of their changes? Unless, I suppose, the changes were made =
to cheapen the final outcome. But then that gets into a whole different =
ballgame (cheating folks).

> > Even Andre Bolduc who says not to change a thing - doesn't he cut a =
curve into his soundboard ribs? Gee wizz, isn't that kinda like playing =
God?
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> I dont know what Andre does or doesnt.... but I do know that just =
because a thing looks like a Mustang.... or a Steinway.... at first =
glance.... doenst mean that thats what the beast really is.

For sure. And perhaps for the better!
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> > IMHO, all this is much ado about nothing.
> >
> > Terry Farrell
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> NIMV

NIMV? Not in my view? Well, it seems from the above, we agree on =
everything. Unless of course you think that if you change the stringing =
scale of a Steinway and install a rib-crowned board, that you should not =
put a Steinway decal on the fallboard.

I see your point - it is not then a FACTORY Steinway. Of course not. =
What about an 80 year old ALL ORIGINAL Steinway. Should that have a S&S =
sticker on it? It is most certainly not as made in the factory (inverted =
soundboard, cracked bridges, dull corroded strings, alligator finish). I =
would dare say a nicely rebuilt Steinway with a modified stringing scale =
would be closer to the factory job than an old worn out all original =
Steinway. I think the sticker says what the piano started out to be and =
that is it.

I think if it has the major components of the original piano - case, =
plate, etc. it gets the original sticker, but anyone selling a modified =
piano should divulge the schedule of changes made.

In every other area I can think of there is no concern about modifying =
things. I used to goof around a bit with boats. If someone told me they =
have a Sparkman & Stevens NY 32, the first thing I would be curious =
about is all the changes/modifications the boat has had over the years - =
not to decide whether it is still a Sparkman & Stevens NY 32, but just =
because I know that unless someone was preserving it as a museum piece, =
it will almost never be as originally constructed. In fact, different =
builders would modify a designers plans a bit for a new owner during the =
initial building process - then it would be a Sparkman & Stevens NY 32 =
with a ketch rig, or wheel steering, or whatever, but it was still a NY =
32!

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> Richard Brekne
> RPT, N.P.T.F.
> UiB, Bergen, Norway
> mailto:rbrekne@broadpark.no
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