Moving Damper Guide Rails

[gordon stelter]

Lak ah saiid:
    Just print a little book to go along with the
piano, explaining all the changes made, and why.
Considering the time spent on a restoration, this is
an itsy-bitsy TRIFLE!!! Tie it to a pretty cord and
hang it in the piano somewhere.
    Of course, always discuss any proposed changes in
detail with a restoration customer in advance, and in
detail! Get it in writing!
     Thump

--- Farrell <mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
> Comments below:
>   
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Richard Brekne" <Richard.Brekne@grieg.uib.no>
> To: "Pianotech" <pianotech@ptg.org>
> Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 5:17 PM
> Subject: Re: Moving Damper Guide Rails
> 
> > > > Given all that.... do you "put" the Steinway
> name and decal back the way you
> > > > found it ? Not that I object to basically
> totally re-designing the
> > > > instrument.... but if you do.... how do you
> justify calling it a Steinway ?....
> > > > It's easily as much a Trout by then eh ?
> > >
> > > I thought we just went through all that a while
> back?
> > >
> > > A 1970 Ford Mustang that has TRW 12:1 pistons, a
> stroked crank, a Wieand hi-rise aluminum manifold, a
> Holley 850 cfm double pumper dual feed carburetor,
> Hooker headers, Muncie wide ratio transmission,
> balanced driveshaft, 4.88 rear end gears, etc.,
> etc., etc. is still a Ford Mustang.
> > 
> > Well, that might be.... and it might not...
> depending on your viewpoint. What is a VW bus with a
> Corvette engine then ? 
> 
> A fast VW microbus!
> 
> And what is it if you in addition pull out the stock
> front suspension and put some other makes in ??
> 
> A funky VW microbus
> > 
> > We may have gone through all this in the past...
> but its a long way from resolved. I have a big
> problem accepting an instrument that does not have a
> Steinway scale, and does not employ a compression
> board as a Steinway myself. Thats not what Steinways
> make, and such a piano will not represent the
> Steinway sound.
> 
> Well, I would always agree that a rebuilder selling
> a piano that is modified from original should
> divulge changes, just as the owner of the VW bus
> should indicate that the audible rumble at the rear
> of the vehicle is a 400 h.p. 310 c.i. V8. However, I
> would still keep the metal VW thingee in the front
> of it! 
>  
> > > I think the only time we need consider a need
> for changing the name on a rewhatevered object is if
> it goes into full-scale remanufacturing to a set
> design and available at some level of large scale.
> Perhaps like the Shelby Mustang. Obviously there is
> some grey area there. And yes, if one were selling a
> significantly modified thingee, I feel it would be
> appropriate to tell of the modifications - but if it
> had a manufacturers sticker on it before, I think
> generally it is A-ok to put the sticker back.
> > 
> > Like you say... there is a grey area. What I dont
> understand about all this is the hesitancy of some
> rebuilders to take full credit for their
> modifications.
> 
> Have to agree with you here for sure. Why would
> someone not want someone to be aware of their
> changes? Unless, I suppose, the changes were made to
> cheapen the final outcome. But then that gets into a
> whole different ballgame (cheating folks).
> 
> > > Even Andre Bolduc who says not to change a thing
> - doesn't he cut a curve into his soundboard ribs?
> Gee wizz, isn't that kinda like playing God?
> > 
> > I dont know what Andre does or doesnt.... but I do
> know that just because a thing looks like a
> Mustang.... or a Steinway.... at first glance....
> doenst mean that thats what the beast really is.
> 
> For sure. And perhaps for the better!
> > >
> > > IMHO, all this is much ado about nothing.
> > >
> > > Terry Farrell
> > 
> > NIMV
> 
> NIMV? Not in my view? Well, it seems from the above,
> we agree on everything. Unless of course you think
> that if you change the stringing scale of a Steinway
> and install a rib-crowned board, that you should not
> put a Steinway decal on the fallboard.
> 
> I see your point - it is not then a FACTORY
> Steinway. Of course not. What about an 80 year old
> ALL ORIGINAL Steinway. Should that have a S&S
> sticker on it? It is most certainly not as made in
> the factory (inverted soundboard, cracked bridges,
> dull corroded strings, alligator finish). I would
> dare say a nicely rebuilt Steinway with a modified
> stringing scale would be closer to the factory job
> than an old worn out all original Steinway. I think
> the sticker says what the piano started out to be
> and that is it.
> 
> I think if it has the major components of the
> original piano - case, plate, etc. it gets the
> original sticker, but anyone selling a modified
> piano should divulge the schedule of changes made.
> 
> In every other area I can think of there is no
> concern about modifying things. I used to goof
> around a bit with boats. If someone told me they
> have a Sparkman & Stevens NY 32, the first thing I
> would be curious about is all the
> changes/modifications the boat has had over the
> years - not to decide whether it is still a Sparkman
> & Stevens NY 32, but just because I know that unless
> someone was preserving it as a museum piece, it will
> almost never be as originally constructed. In fact,
> different builders would modify a designers plans a
> bit for a new owner during the initial building
> process - then it would be a Sparkman & Stevens NY
> 32 with a ketch rig, or wheel steering, or whatever,
> but it was still a NY 32!
> 
> > 
> > RicB
> > 
> > 
> > --
> > Richard Brekne
> > RPT, N.P.T.F.
> > UiB, Bergen, Norway
> > mailto:rbrekne@broadpark.no
> > http://home.broadpark.no/~rbrekne/ricmain.html
> > 
> > 
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