What do I do with Story&Clark/Yamaha 158 grand? Final question.

[gordon stelter]

Thanks! Final question: I have never CA'd a block from
underneath for fear of putting a hard cap on the
tuning pin bottoms, inhibiting turning and perhaps
causing the block to separate if the puns push on said
cap. But everyone seems to think that this is not a
problem, so I'll try it. And I'm not worried about the
CA running out onto the coils, as these pins have very
tight pin bushings, as you mentioned.
    But how much CA do I use each pin? A drop? 10?
Fill 'em up?
     Inquiring Minds want to Know!
     Thump
 
--- Roger Jolly <roger.j@sasktel.net> wrote:
> Hi Gordon,
>                    CA does not work too well on
> Yamaha or Kawai's.   The 
> plate bushings, are in fact plate plugs.   Grain
> running horizontal, not 
> vertical like North American pianos.  Very little
> glue gets to where it 
> needs to be.
> To be effective, the piano needs to be flipped
> upside down, and the CA run 
> in from the bottom of the tuning pin hole.  This
> will yield very good 
> results in most cases.
> The nice thing about doing it from the bottom, is
> the repair is invisible.
> The best solution, is to repin, this age and quality
> of piano deserves it.
> Regards Roger
> 
> 
> At 07:01 AM 2/22/2003 -0800, you wrote:
> >Cosmetically, though, the piano is quite nice and
> the
> >pins have been driven to the point that any
> wandering
> >CA between them, on top of the plate, would harden
> to
> >a lovely web between plate and wire! Usually I keep
> >twisted up Kleenex (TM) handy to quickly wick up
> any
> >wandering CA, but this does not work well when it
> gets
> >beneath low-lying strings. I think I might just
> flip
> >this one over and do the 3-bottles-of Pin-Tite over
> a
> >weeks period from the block underside. I'd rather
> use
> >CA, but in this attitude I fear it might run over
> the
> >coils and make a ugly mess! I'm also concerned
> about
> >permanently gluing the plate into the piano, so I
> >don't usually CA nice grands. Not much, anyhow.
> >      Thump
> >
> >--- Farrell <mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
> > > Well, I must admit that I have never worked on a
> > > block after it had been CAed. BUT, being  that
> the
> > > CA just simply solidifies, I can't for the life
> of
> > > me imagine that repinning would be affected at
> all -
> > > especially if you went up two pin sizes and did
> a
> > > little reaming - but again, I have never done
> that
> > > (although I would maintain that I would be 99%
> > > confident that it would not harm anything - and
> > > hence, the "can't hurt" statement).
> > >
> > > Anyone out there ever repinned a previously CAed
> > > block?
> > >
> > > Terry Farrell
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Clyde Hollinger" <cedel@supernet.com>
> > > To: "Pianotech" <pianotech@ptg.org>
> > > Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2003 7:46 AM
> > > Subject: Re: What do I do with
> Story&Clark/Yamaha
> > > 158 grand?
> > >
> > >
> > > > Terry,
> > > >
> > > > I was thinking of suggesting the same thing
> you
> > > did.  CA may fix the
> > > > problem indefinitely.  Since I don't do major
> > > repairs, however, I am not
> > > > qualified to answer the question.  The one
> > > apprehension I had was this:
> > > > Suppose the CA didn't work, and the piano had
> to
> > > be repinned anyway.
> > > > Would the CA have ruined the pinblock to the
> point
> > > it would now have to
> > > > be replaced, rather than just repinned?
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Clyde
> > > >
> > > > Farrell wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Perhaps a first, most-low-budget, approach
> would
> > > be CA. Can't hurt!
> > > >
> > > > > > Hi folks!
> > > > > >      This Yamaha built Story&Clark model
> 158
> > > grand is
> > > > > > in a church social hall. The pins have
> that
> > > typical
> > > > > > looseness of Yamahas from the 1960's or
> 70's,
> > > which I
> > > > > > have felt before. The church wants the
> piano
> > > fixed,
> > > > > > but does not have a big budget. The pins
> have
> > > been
> > > > > > driven already.
> > > >
> > > >
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