Again: How liberal should I be with CA when applying to this Ymha/Stry & Clrk from undereath?

gordon stelter lclgcnp@yahoo.com
Sat, 22 Feb 2003 12:32:43 -0800 (PST)


--- gordon stelter <lclgcnp@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Thanks! Final question: I have never CA'd a block
> from
> underneath for fear of putting a hard cap on the
> tuning pin bottoms, inhibiting turning and perhaps
> causing the block to separate if the puns push on
> said
> cap. But everyone seems to think that this is not a
> problem,( and shouldn't be on amodern block) so I'll
try it. And I'm not worried about
> the
> CA running out onto the coils, as these pins have
> very
> tight pin bushings, as you mentioned.
>     But how much CA do I use each pin? A drop? 10?
> Fill 'em up? How many ounces per piano, like this?
>      Inquiring Minds want to Know!
>      Thump
>  
> --- Roger Jolly <roger.j@sasktel.net> wrote:
> > Hi Gordon,
> >                    CA does not work too well on
> > Yamaha or Kawai's.   The 
> > plate bushings, are in fact plate plugs.   Grain
> > running horizontal, not 
> > vertical like North American pianos.  Very little
> > glue gets to where it 
> > needs to be.
> > To be effective, the piano needs to be flipped
> > upside down, and the CA run 
> > in from the bottom of the tuning pin hole.  This
> > will yield very good 
> > results in most cases.
> > The nice thing about doing it from the bottom, is
> > the repair is invisible.
> > The best solution, is to repin, this age and
> quality
> > of piano deserves it.
> > Regards Roger
> > 
> > 
> > At 07:01 AM 2/22/2003 -0800, you wrote:
> > >Cosmetically, though, the piano is quite nice and
> > the
> > >pins have been driven to the point that any
> > wandering
> > >CA between them, on top of the plate, would
> harden
> > to
> > >a lovely web between plate and wire! Usually I
> keep
> > >twisted up Kleenex (TM) handy to quickly wick up
> > any
> > >wandering CA, but this does not work well when it
> > gets
> > >beneath low-lying strings. I think I might just
> > flip
> > >this one over and do the 3-bottles-of Pin-Tite
> over
> > a
> > >weeks period from the block underside. I'd rather
> > use
> > >CA, but in this attitude I fear it might run over
> > the
> > >coils and make a ugly mess! I'm also concerned
> > about
> > >permanently gluing the plate into the piano, so I
> > >don't usually CA nice grands. Not much, anyhow.
> > >      Thump
> > >
> > >--- Farrell <mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
> > > > Well, I must admit that I have never worked on
> a
> > > > block after it had been CAed. BUT, being  that
> > the
> > > > CA just simply solidifies, I can't for the
> life
> > of
> > > > me imagine that repinning would be affected at
> > all -
> > > > especially if you went up two pin sizes and
> did
> > a
> > > > little reaming - but again, I have never done
> > that
> > > > (although I would maintain that I would be 99%
> > > > confident that it would not harm anything -
> and
> > > > hence, the "can't hurt" statement).
> > > >
> > > > Anyone out there ever repinned a previously
> CAed
> > > > block?
> > > >
> > > > Terry Farrell
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Clyde Hollinger" <cedel@supernet.com>
> > > > To: "Pianotech" <pianotech@ptg.org>
> > > > Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2003 7:46 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: What do I do with
> > Story&Clark/Yamaha
> > > > 158 grand?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Terry,
> > > > >
> > > > > I was thinking of suggesting the same thing
> > you
> > > > did.  CA may fix the
> > > > > problem indefinitely.  Since I don't do
> major
> > > > repairs, however, I am not
> > > > > qualified to answer the question.  The one
> > > > apprehension I had was this:
> > > > > Suppose the CA didn't work, and the piano
> had
> > to
> > > > be repinned anyway.
> > > > > Would the CA have ruined the pinblock to the
> > point
> > > > it would now have to
> > > > > be replaced, rather than just repinned?
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > > Clyde
> > > > >
> > > > > Farrell wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Perhaps a first, most-low-budget, approach
> > would
> > > > be CA. Can't hurt!
> > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi folks!
> > > > > > >      This Yamaha built Story&Clark model
> > 158
> > > > grand is
> > > > > > > in a church social hall. The pins have
> > that
> > > > typical
> > > > > > > looseness of Yamahas from the 1960's or
> > 70's,
> > > > which I
> > > > > > > have felt before. The church wants the
> > piano
> > > > fixed,
> > > > > > > but does not have a big budget. The pins
> > have
> > > > been
> > > > > > > driven already.
> > > > >
> > > > >
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