RPT test, top octave, was Re: Aural Octaves (Jim Coleman Sr)

[Kevin E. Ramsey]

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Charles, that's what it says in the tuning exam source book; clean 2/1 =
octaves in the top octave.=20

    Kevin.
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Charles Neuman=20
  To: pianotech@ptg.org=20
  Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 11:11 AM
  Subject: RPT test, top octave, was Re: Aural Octaves (Jim Coleman Sr)


  Just to be clear: Does it really specify that the the top octave has =
to
  make beatless 2:1 octaves?  Is this a new thing? If not, is it still =
true?

  The reason I ask is that I dug out my handout from the Convention =
about
  the RTP tuning test and it didn't say it quite so explicitly. It's not =
an
  official publication, but it was pretty specific about the =
requirements
  for the test.

  What it says about the top octave is: "For purposes of this =
examination,
  do not stretch the high treble notes more than is necessary to get =
good
  clean sounding octaves all the way to the top."

  Does that really mean "2:1 octaves need to be beatless in the top =
octave"?
  I think in the class we were told something like, "Don't stretch it as
  much as you might like."

  I just want to clear up my confusion.

  Thanks,

  Charles Neuman
  PTG Assoc, Long Island


  >     Charles, Jim is just making reference to the instructions for =
the =3D
  > RPT test which states that now matter how the technician normally =
tunes, =3D
  > on the test they want you to tune pure 2/1 octaves on the very top =
part =3D
  > of the piano. They just want you to prove that you can do it, that's =
=3D
  > all.=3D20
  >     Kevin E. Ramsey
  >   ----- Original Message -----=3D20
  >   From: Charles Neuman=3D20
  >   To: pianotech@ptg.org=3D20
  >   Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 9:06 PM
  >   Subject: Re: Aural Octaves (Jim Coleman Sr)
  >
  >
  >   I'm a little confused by Jim's statement below, from his email on =
=3D
  > Aural
  >   Octaves:
  >
  >   >        CAUTION! For those preparing to take the PTG Tuning exam,
  >   >        remember that it is required to
  >   >        tune the top octave C7 to B7 as simple pure octaves (2-1
  >   >        type?) without the additional stretch
  >   >        which the above procedure would produce. Therfore, =
utilize
  >   >        the 10th-17th test such as G#4-C6
  >   >        and G#4-C7  to be equal in beat rate. Also F5-C6 and =
F5-C7
  >   >        to be equal.
  >
  >   Does that mean the stretch suddenly ends at the last octave? Or =
are =3D
  > you
  >   just cautioning us not to stretch too much on the exam? Those look =
=3D
  > like
  >   2:1 octaves to me, so it seems like the stretch just ends at the =
last
  >   octave, and the tuning curve levels out.
  >
  >   Also, Jim, I hope you'll post your comments on bass octave tuning.
  >
  >   Thanks,
  >
  >   Charles Neuman
  >   PTG Assoc, Long Island

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