>>Bill writes: >>>Among other very interesting things was Dan Franklin's class. Apparently >>>one class was quite dramatic.) >> >>Now you got me curious, what was Dan's class? >>Ed > >Tuning the back duplexes. I went to Dan's Sun 2d period class. The explanations here were a little sketchy. The results were less obvious than at the early class period on this (Sat) in which, as reported by a good friend and respected source, the duplex bar in the 5th octave got pushed back nearly 5/16th ". He witnessed a surging forth of the sound. At the second class, Dan worked over the same 5th octave, but this time there was slimmer work to be done. It was a convincing demonstration that the duplexes could be tuned from the tuning hammer. I also noticed that to be able to affect the pitch of the duplex, the speaking length had to drop in the neighbor hood of 100 cents (¢, for those of you with the full character set). This was a relief to me, finding that the tension differential across the bridge's friction barrier was far greater than anything I going to cause during a normal tuning at pitch. I also wondered if you knock the string down a 100¢ to nudge the duplex tension downwards, then retune the speaking length to standard pitch, wouldn't the duplex tension be nudged back up to, in fact, land where it had been before. All the transactions of tension, from the tuning hammer at the beginning of the system to the duplex section near the end, constitute a leverage. The available leverage in far end doesn't seem like a good, workable handle on the tension at that far end. We could have had some good figures for movement of wire tension across the bridge by taking before an after frequency readings of duplex section. But we didn't. So after seeing the tuning done in the octave where it had been fix yesterday afternoon, there wasn't much result to point at. I asked Dan if there was a note in that region which could remind us of the "choked" sound so pervasive in the piano yesterday. (I would find out 30 minutes later that Dan had just paved over the section of road which got paved yesterday.) Dan promptly pointed out a note in the lower octave. I have a few more comments, but mainly lots of questions. Like, is the contribution of the well-tuned duplex to the resonance of the board a function of the match of tension on either side of the bridge, or the harmoniousness of these two sections. IWO, is the board paying attention to the downward pull on each side of the bridge or do the two pitch on either side of the bridge find each other and reinforce each other, oblivious to the balance of tensions across the bridge? (You might wonder that tension and pitch would be consistent with each other, that where one is there, properly, the other also is. Probably not in this piano. I asked Dan whether the most straightforward way to tune the back duplex section was laying it out by old fashioned linear arithmetic, say, with a ruler and dividers every five notes. That done, you would know that when the tension was right, the pitch was right. No this idea wasn't particularly interesting to him, and he didn't do it.) That's it, fur starters. And I hoping that this list can shine a few flashlights on the subject. BTW, At 5:13 AM -0400 5/3/02, A440A@AOL.COM wrote: >Now you got me curious, what was Dan's class? >Ed You mean you weren't in the slightest interested in the two suggestions I made earlier in my comments on the current thread of HTs. that: 1.) The easiest way to make an HT was to tune an ET and let it sit'n'sag out in the summer sun. and 2.) ETDs probably aid in exploring and perfecting temperaments in pianos with noticeably bent harmonicities, because of the consistency of ETDs' mathematical processes. All in good fun, I hope. Bill Ballard RPT NH Chapter, P.T.G. "We mustn't underestimate our power of teamwork." ...........Bob Davis RPT, pianotech '97 +++++++++++++++++++++
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