Tokai piano

[Avery Todd]

Hi Les,

I "think" I have some info on the spring thing as it relates to Steinway
at the school. I'll check tomorrow when I'm there and see.

Avery

At 07:20 PM 03/08/02 -0600, you wrote:

>         Why do the pins get tight?    I've hear Oriental pianos "do 
> that", but
>not heard "why".    What to do with the springs?  Newton Hunt just wrote
>me a long thingie, and I get the idea that they should be weakened so
>they barely lift the whip on their own, as they fairly jump now, when
>keys are held down at backrail and hammers are lifted off the rep
>lever........
>thanks
>les
>
>On Fri, 08 Mar 2002 15:40:19 -0600 "David M. Porritt"
><dm.porritt@verizon.net> writes:
> > Les:
> >
> > From my experience with these things, it's probably not from the
> > fire
> > but from the "T" on the fall board.  I think they are a little prone
> > to get tight like some other eastern pianos.
> >
> > dave
> >
> > *********** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***********
> >
> > On 3/8/02 at 9:54 AM Newton Hunt wrote:
> >
> > >Hi Les,
> > >
> > >First, the wippen spring help REDUCE sluggishness by reducing key
> > >weight.  If they just lift their own weight then they are adjusted
> > >properly.
> > >
> > >The after effects of a fire take a loooong time to settle down to
> > >"normal" which will not necessarily be what we consider normal.
> > Smoke
> > >damage is long lasting, and dangerous, to you since it is more than
> > just
> > >toxic.  When you work on the action I would wear a mask and some
> > gloves
> > >when you can.
> > >
> > >Sluggishness comes from lots and lots of sources.  If everything
> > else is
> > >normal then I would start by polishing the key pins, front and
> > center,
> > >lubricating the bushings and pins and when installing the keys do
> > so
> > one
> > >at a time and carefully ease each key, front, hole and button.
> > Polish
> > >the capstans and lubricate them and the rocker cushions.
> > >
> > >Repin the entire hammer rail section and if the wippens and other
> > pin
> > >sets show the same symptoms then repin those as well.
> > >
> > >Without meticulous attention to details and doing all 88 of
> > whatever
> > >then what is left undone will come back and bite you.  Carefully
> > check
> > >the pinning of the damper section and check the polish of the
> > wires.
> >
> > >WHen you are done it will play like a dream.
> > >
> > >             Newton
> > >
> > >Leslie W Bartlett wrote:
> > >>
> > >> I ran in to my first experience with whippen assist springs this
> > week,
> > >> and think I heard some negative things about such on the list,
> > but
> > would
> > >> like current thinking I can share with customer. All parts in
> > whippen are
> > >> plastic, and the spring actually will lift the whippen up, at
> > rest, when
> > >> the back (damper-end) of the key is held down.
> > >>
> > >> I think it is contributing to a sluggish action.  The home in
> > which the
> > >> piano resides had a fire five years ago. The piano was covered
> > with a
> > >> large tarp, says customer, in order to "prevent it from getting
> > >> wet"........   Now, five years later, hammers are either sticking
> > or
> > >> swinging 1-31/2 times. There is some verdigris on the bass
> > hammers, but
> > >> the hammer flange pins look clean, as does the hammer flange
> > felt.
> > >> Wisdom needed. Repinning seems to fix the hammers, but I cannot
> > figure
> > >> why it would take this long for them to get tight.
> > >> Thanks
> > >> les bartlett
> > >> houston
> > >>
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> > Meadows School of the Arts
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