Stored Tunings v/s FAC

[Farrell]

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Sandersons told me that yes, most of the canned tunings were based on =
averages of some number of that model piano.

I don't really fully understand what is the point in this thread =
regarding canned vs. FAC vs. inharmonicity changes. I don't think it =
really matters which you use because you should always be listening and =
adjusting to make your ears happy. I test a bunch of octaves right after =
doing my FAC or using the FAC that I had last time and determine my =
major Double Octave Beat offsets right off before I even start tuning. =
But I guess I feel that regardless of what ETD you use, you will have to =
have some means of evaluating the calculated tuning and then making =
whatever adjustments may be appropriate.

Terry Farrell
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  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: John Ross=20
  To: pianotech@ptg.org=20
  Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2001 2:46 PM
  Subject: Re: Stored Tunings v/s FAC


  Hi Wim,
  I wonder, are the canned tunings an average, of a multiple of the same =
model of piano? That would explain, why they may appear to be better =
than a fresh FAC.
  I still do a fresh FAC, and seldom have to touch it up. But at the =
University, with a bunch of one type, I do use the programmed ones.
  Regards,
  John M. Ross
  jrpiano@win.eastlink.ca
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    From: Wimblees@AOL.COM=20
    To: pianotech@ptg.org=20
    Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2001 3:12 PM
    Subject: Re: Stored Tunings v/s FAC


    In a message dated 12/23/01 12:14:02 PM !!!First Boot!!!, =
tompiano@gate.net writes:=20



      I have one concert hall that I have invested at least 15hrs. of=20
      tuning-data-input time. The only problem is that I'm never =
satisfied with my=20
      saved results, even when I'm sure I imputed  data correctly and my =
tuning is=20
      complimentary as possible.=20



    I have tuned both concert hall D's at UA for 5 months now and I =
always tune them to the canned tuning in my SATIII. The first couple of =
times I tried to make a few changes, but found that the changes I made =
corresponded with what the machine was telling me. What I wasn't doing =
was making absolutely sure the lights stood still.=20

    The other thing I found is that I educated the piano players to the =
tuning I put on the piano. With the tuning being consistent, the players =
know what to expect. They like what they hear, compliment me on it, and =
now expect the piano to sound that way every time. This has also =
educated me. I used to hear it different (I didn't stretch the upper =
octaves as much).=20

    This has saved me a lot of time. All I do now is turn on the SATIII =
and let it do the tuning for me. The only time I "experiment," is with =
some of the practice room pianos. But even then, I usually go back to =
what the canned tuning tells me. The only other time I experiment, is on =
a piano that is not in the machine, and I have to set my own FAC. Then I =
rely more on my ear to tell me if it right or not.=20

    Wim=20

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