tuning question

[Dick Beaton]

Farrell...
The reason it goes sharp is that you didn't approach unison from above
pitch....thus leaving some torque in the pin.  Just my opinion.
Dick MT

----- Original Message -----
From: Farrell <mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com>
To: <pianotech@ptg.org>
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 5:45 AM
Subject: Re: tuning question


> I know what the problem is! You are tuning too fast. You pitch raised
> (major, HA! - that was a world record!) a piano 600 cents and fine tuned
it
> in just under two hours? You gotta be bionic. Are you for rent?
>
> On a more serious note, is there a typo here? If not, please shed some
light
> on your technique. (I am being serious here.) I am still in the
> under-1,000-piano-tuning-experience catagory and am always trying to
> increase my speed. Do you have a special technique, or just LOTS of
> practice?
>
> Even more to the point, yes, I have noticed the one string sharp thing
also.
> I use the Accu-Tuner and tune my unisons as I go. Therefore (on an
upright)
> I tune the center string, the right string (bottom pin) and finally the
left
> string (top pin). When I am done tuning and I go back just to double check
> my unisons carefully, the norm is to find a few (well, maybe a bunch) of
> right strings (bottom pin) just a tad (as opposed to a tish - but that
just
> may be my inexperience) sharper than the other two. I figured I was the
only
> one able to do that - so my assumption has always been that I was
bumbling.
> Thanks, I feel better now. I'm going to practice to get from a tad to only
a
> tish sharp though!
>
> Very interesting question. Being that I am very consistent with this, I
have
> indeed wondered whether the cause went beyond my special talents. In my
case
> the sharp string is not the last one tuned as Dale spoke of. Anyone with
an
> answer? How about something funny from Ron - this might be good material?
>
> Terry Farrell
> Piano Tuning & Service
> Tampa, Florida
> mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jay Mercier" <jaymercier@hotmail.com>
> To: <pianotech@ptg.org>
> Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2000 8:38 PM
> Subject: tuning question
>
>
> > List,
> >
> > I notice lately that when I perform a major pitch raise (today, it was
one
> > that was 3 whole steps flat), by the time I'm done with the fine tuning
> just
> > under 2 hours later the unisons in the mid to upper treble range go out
> just
> > a tish, and about 90% of the problem is that the bottom pin (upright) is
> > always just a tish sharp compared to the other two pins of the unison.
> > Almost always I have to go back and lower every bottom pin to match the
> > remaining two unisons.  Can this be avoided?  Any thoughts on this is
> > appreciated.
> >
> > Jay Mercier
> > New Associate Member
> > Glenwood, MN
> >
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> Dale wrote:
>
> Jay,
> First, congratulations on becoming a new member! Hope to meet you in
person
> in Reno at the Annual Convention.
> I have pondered this problem for some time. My mentor, Jimmy Gold, thought
> that it was because that was the last pin he tuned, it did not get settled
> as well as the other two. I have tried a variety of muting/tuning schemes
> which have led me to believe there may be some validity in his thesis. If
> this is not the last string you tune it obviously does not apply.
> I do find it harder to set the bottom pin on an upright primarily because
it
> is more difficult for me to get the short length of string between the
> tuning pin and the pressure bar to render.
> If you figure this one out, please let me know!
> Best,
> Dale
> Dale Probst, RPT
> Member, TEAM20001
> PTG Annual Convention
> Reno, NV --July 11-15, 2000
> email: wardprobst@cst.net
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