tuning question

[Farrell]

Hmmmm. No. I rarely tune a string "from below". Sometimes, but on such a
piano all or most would be tuned like that. No, this happens often when
tuning "from above". Seems a bit wierd to me.

Terry Farrell
Piano Tuning & Service
Tampa, Florida
mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dick Beaton" <rbeaton@initco.net>
To: <pianotech@ptg.org>
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 5:03 PM
Subject: Re: tuning question


> Farrell...
> The reason it goes sharp is that you didn't approach unison from above
> pitch....thus leaving some torque in the pin.  Just my opinion.
> Dick MT
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Farrell <mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com>
> To: <pianotech@ptg.org>
> Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 5:45 AM
> Subject: Re: tuning question
>
>
> > I know what the problem is! You are tuning too fast. You pitch raised
> > (major, HA! - that was a world record!) a piano 600 cents and fine tuned
> it
> > in just under two hours? You gotta be bionic. Are you for rent?
> >
> > On a more serious note, is there a typo here? If not, please shed some
> light
> > on your technique. (I am being serious here.) I am still in the
> > under-1,000-piano-tuning-experience catagory and am always trying to
> > increase my speed. Do you have a special technique, or just LOTS of
> > practice?
> >
> > Even more to the point, yes, I have noticed the one string sharp thing
> also.
> > I use the Accu-Tuner and tune my unisons as I go. Therefore (on an
> upright)
> > I tune the center string, the right string (bottom pin) and finally the
> left
> > string (top pin). When I am done tuning and I go back just to double
check
> > my unisons carefully, the norm is to find a few (well, maybe a bunch) of
> > right strings (bottom pin) just a tad (as opposed to a tish - but that
> just
> > may be my inexperience) sharper than the other two. I figured I was the
> only
> > one able to do that - so my assumption has always been that I was
> bumbling.
> > Thanks, I feel better now. I'm going to practice to get from a tad to
only
> a
> > tish sharp though!
> >
> > Very interesting question. Being that I am very consistent with this, I
> have
> > indeed wondered whether the cause went beyond my special talents. In my
> case
> > the sharp string is not the last one tuned as Dale spoke of. Anyone with
> an
> > answer? How about something funny from Ron - this might be good
material?
> >
> > Terry Farrell
> > Piano Tuning & Service
> > Tampa, Florida
> > mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jay Mercier" <jaymercier@hotmail.com>
> > To: <pianotech@ptg.org>
> > Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2000 8:38 PM
> > Subject: tuning question
> >
> >
> > > List,
> > >
> > > I notice lately that when I perform a major pitch raise (today, it was
> one
> > > that was 3 whole steps flat), by the time I'm done with the fine
tuning
> > just
> > > under 2 hours later the unisons in the mid to upper treble range go
out
> > just
> > > a tish, and about 90% of the problem is that the bottom pin (upright)
is
> > > always just a tish sharp compared to the other two pins of the unison.
> > > Almost always I have to go back and lower every bottom pin to match
the
> > > remaining two unisons.  Can this be avoided?  Any thoughts on this is
> > > appreciated.
> > >
> > > Jay Mercier
> > > New Associate Member
> > > Glenwood, MN
> > >
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> >
> > Dale wrote:
> >
> > Jay,
> > First, congratulations on becoming a new member! Hope to meet you in
> person
> > in Reno at the Annual Convention.
> > I have pondered this problem for some time. My mentor, Jimmy Gold,
thought
> > that it was because that was the last pin he tuned, it did not get
settled
> > as well as the other two. I have tried a variety of muting/tuning
schemes
> > which have led me to believe there may be some validity in his thesis.
If
> > this is not the last string you tune it obviously does not apply.
> > I do find it harder to set the bottom pin on an upright primarily
because
> it
> > is more difficult for me to get the short length of string between the
> > tuning pin and the pressure bar to render.
> > If you figure this one out, please let me know!
> > Best,
> > Dale
> > Dale Probst, RPT
> > Member, TEAM20001
> > PTG Annual Convention
> > Reno, NV --July 11-15, 2000
> > email: wardprobst@cst.net
> > (940)691-3682 voice
> > (940) 691-6843 fax
> > TEAM2001 website: http://www.equaltemperament.com/PTG/
> >
> >
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