Tooners :-( or exasperation exemplified!!

carl meyer cmpiano@earthlink.net
Sat, 13 May 2000 14:04:14 -0700


Jim:  I, too have recently seen an S&S model A 1898 purchased for 20000
about four years ago that was pretty sad.  I won't go into the details,
but what bugs me is that it was sold by a dealer who specializes in fine
handcrafted pianos.  I see techs who advertise "Steinway specialist" or
"Steinways only" and I believe that helps to perpetuate the notion that
a Steinway of any condition is worth Zillions of rubles and any other
piano regardless of its quality is not worth hauling home.  I'm not
trying to bad- mouth Steinway in particular, but I find them harder to
work on than some others and yes they are good pianos but not that good
so you should get 3 or 4 times what you can get for some other good
brand.

I've been trying to sell a Hardman 1908 6'10" grand that I rebuilt????
Maybe I should say I put it in very good condition.  I'm told that a
Steinway B in this condition would bring 30-35 thou, but so far I've not
had any response.  It is now on consignment for 12 thou and the dealer
is now telling me the real wholesale value is more like 8 thou.  I think
he's preparing me for the worst.

I'd appreciate sugestions on how to market a decent piano that is not
a Steinway out of my garage.  It's the best piano I've ever worked on
and I don't want to give it away.  I've considered  a mailing list of
techs, and teachers and offering a 3% referral fee.  Any thoughts on
selling?  I guess I'm better at buying pianos than selling them.

Thank you all in advance.

Carl Meyer
Santa Clara. Ca.

JIMRPT@AOL.COM wrote:
> 
> Et Al;
>  I thought that I had seen everything that could be done half er...way and in
> creative misapplication of techniques.......as usual I was wrong.
> 
>  I evaluated a S&S model 'M'(I think, I did not measure) re-something or
> other...certainly rebulid, refurbish or remanufacture don't fit!! (keep in
> mind that the customer traded a 5 year old Kawai 6'something and 10,000
> dollars to obtain this beauty...........
> 
>   Working from the key bed up:
> New front rail felts...no regulating punchings 'period' under the naturals
> and 1 Thick card under each of the sharps.
> New keytops, one piece front and top, untrimmed/filed/fitted.
> No new key bushings.
> Corroded capstans.
> New short backchecks, unleveled and or regulated.
> Full set of new Renner S&S style whips, unregulated and installed bass
> ackwards, i.e., No. 1 was on No. 88 and vice versa............but they 'were'
> in order :-)
> Old hammers/shanks/knuckles.
> (NOTE: I believe these hammers are from a model 'A', or some such, as there
> are
> obviously 26 bass hammers installed on a 20 bass note scale!  The first six
> hammers in the bottom tenor section are what normally would be the last six
> on a 26 note bass scale. Each of these six hammers have had their original
> shank hole plugged and a new shank hole drilled sorta close.........the tails
> have not been cut off but the hammers have been filed drastically to fit in
> their new location. If I had to guess I would say that all 88 were original
> hammers 80 or more years ago!)
> Hammers are past the point of filability (is that a word?:)
> Hammers hit the strings but that is the end of any sembelance of regulation.
> New pinblock..........does not even touch the stretcher, almost hidden by the
> plate between plate and stretcher, muchless being glued and doweled.
> Tuning pins at various stage of completion as to tight coils/beckets/level.
> New treble strings with OLD BASS STRINGS!!!!!!!
> Plate has been rebronzed and a cute little hitch pin punching adorns each
> hitch pin..................
> No string braid at all, anywhere.
> etc., etc., etc...................
> BUT............ the dampers work well !!!!!
> 
>   How can these people get away with this kinda stuff?  If I did a likewise
> re-something or other I would be UNDER a jail somewhere!!!
> 
>   What would you do, would you have done, if presented with the above
> instrument?  I'll tell you what I did/am doing when y'all have had a chance
> to suggestionate. :-)
> Jim Bryant (FL)


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