At 15:04 24.08.95, DAVander@aol.com wrote: |: ...rebuild a Steinway upright piano, circa 1902.... |: The work to be done includes shimming the soundboard, a |: new bass bridge, new strings and tuning pins, new hammers |: and hammer butts, reconditioning the wippens, keybushings |: and keybed felts, and tuning and regulating. |: ...changing a scale design. I desire to correspond with |: someone who has experience in scale design to walk me |: through the measurements and calculations necessary. There is almost certainly no point in rescaling the plain wire section of this piano since if the bridge line is wrong (which it is not in this case!) there is nothing you can do short of fitting another bridge. Some pianos, mainly German, can be given a more singing and sustained tone by reducing the tension overall but this is not necessary on a Steinway which generally has string tensions in the mid treble of 150-160 lbs. except at the extremities. At the bass end of the long bridge you can expect to find a tailing off of tension towards the break perhaps to as low as 120 lbs. This is to avoid stiffness in the strings and consequent bad harmonics as the bridge runs out of space. A more gradual tailing off of tension is to be expected at the top of the treble for a different reason, namely to ensure that the strings remain within the tensile limit of the wire. On note 88 (of almost any good piano) you would expect to find a speaking length of 48mm. and a #13 wire. To calculate the tension, multiply the frequency in cps. (4186.01) by the length in cm. (4.8) by the diameter of the wire in cm. (0.0775) and then square the result to get 2424847. Divide this by 18676 ** (for plain wire of density 7.6 g/cc) and you will get the tension in lbs (133). If you were to substitute a #13.5 wire (0.800mm.) you would raise the tension to 143 lbs. In brief the formula for the calculation of the tension is therefore: ( f l d ) ^2 (frequency x length x diameter all squared ________ K divided by a constant depending on the mass per unit length of the string.) For the covered strings a rough value for K (quite adequate for all practical purposes) is 20,000. Thus you have, say a covered string of overall diameter 6.00mm on bottom A which has a speaking length of 1170mm. On a simple calculator do this: 27.5 * 117 * .6 * = / 20000 = The result is 186 lbs. ** As to the case of the old Steinway upright, I would disagree with anyone who says the bass string scale cannot be improved upon. Unfortunately you are stuck with only ten singles where 12 or more would be preferable on a scale of this length. After many decades living in the 1870's Steinway have at last realized that their bass scales might be changed and I notice double covered strings (Horror of horrors, dear Theodore) on new uprights. You can double-cover the last ten notes if you like and aim for tension on note 1 of 180-200 lbs and on note 10 of 260 lbs. A good scale on any piano with a speaking length of 120cm for A1 would be 12-15 singles and 12-15 bichords with tension rising though the singles from 200 to 260 lbs. and all the bichords at 180 lbs. This is not possible on the old Steinway upright. I would set note 1 at 180-200 lbs and note 10 at 240 lbs. Note 11 cannot be given 180lbs without making it "barky". I would recommend a rise from 140 lbs to 170lbs. through the bichord section. I don't have the scales I have used to hand since I am at home, but I'm sure it would be something like this. I can easily send you a couple of suggested scales if you like. You would need to tell me the speaking lengths of note 1 and note 26 so that I know which model it is. One thing I do know about this piano - the use of a #22 core for note 10 (single-covered) finally purifies the note. The original core is #18 and sounds awful. |: I would also appreciate recommendations of pitfalls to |: avoid when working with a Steinway upright of this period. |: Does anyone have a preferred brand/supplier of hammers |: suitable for this piano? Nothing is better that the brown wood impregnated hammers from Japan (I forget the name but it's something like Imategawa). I believe Schaff are the US. agents and in Europe Danielsen. Get them unbored and recalculate the boring angle. Steinway's original boring (hammer over-centring) seems crazy and I have never worked out why they did it. Rationalizing the boring does no harm to the tone. The strike line must of course remain sacrosanct. |: someone else hang the hammers as I don't have a drill |: press. What should I watch out for in replacing the |: hammers and hammer butts? If you have the two-forked horizontal flange then what you should watch out for is your sanity! - especially if you are reboring the butts for new shanks. I would recommend fitting one note at a time and regulating as you go along taking special care with the shimming of the flanges and all the alignments. This is not an action for the fainthearted. JD -- ** PS. This formula is derived from the general physical formula for vibrating strings which states that Frequency = half the length in cm. multiplied by the square root of the tension in dynes divided by the mass per cm. length : F=1/(2*L)*SQRT(T/M). The value of K is as follows for a series of relative densities of the string considered as a uniform cylinder containing steel wire, covering wire and AIR. RD K ____________ 6.50 21837 6.60 21506 6.70 21185 6.80 20873 6.90 20571 7.00 20277 7.10 19991 7.20 19714 7.30 19444 7.40 19181 7.50 18925 7.60 18676 7.70 18433 7.80 18197 7.90 17967 8.00 17742 8.10 17523 8.20 17309 8.30 17101 8.40 16897 8.50 16699 8.60 16504 8.70 16315 8.80 16129 8.90 15948 9.00 15771 ________________________________________________________________________ Delacour Piano Services - 34 Station Road, Parkstone Poole - Dorset BH14 8UD - England +44 1202 731031 Bass String Manufacturer - Piano Technician ________________________________________________________________________
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