[CAUT] Re Retesting(OT)

tnrwim at aol.com tnrwim at aol.com
Thu Jul 29 01:36:14 MDT 2010




Wim-
 
What is the consequence of not being an RPT?
Why did you bother when you can charge for tuning without the RPT letters?
 
Ed

What I'm saying is that if you want to advance your learning beyond your RPT credentials, (which is a good thing to do), but you want to do it on your own, with your own curriculum, then do so. But don't make it a PTG run program.  

Wim






-----Original Message-----
From: Ed Sutton <ed440 at mindspring.com>
To: College and University Technicians <caut at ptg.org>
Sent: Wed, Jul 28, 2010 7:45 pm
Subject: Re: [CAUT] Re Retesting(OT)


Wim-
 
What is the consequence of not being an RPT?
Why did you bother when you can charge for tuning without the RPT letters?
 
Ed

----- Original Message ----- 
From: tnrwim at aol.com 
To: ed440 at mindspring.com ; caut at ptg.org 
Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 12:20 AM
Subject: Re: [CAUT] Re Retesting(OT)





It might also be done in such a way that it is too interesting to ignore. 
hy do some members with 30, 40, 50 years experience continue to attend 
lasses, voluntarily?
Personally, I favor the "create your own curriculum" approach. It's what the 
ost motivated people are doing already.
Ed S.

Then why have any kind of program? Unless there are consequences of not attending classes, or taking recert exams, if the only purpose of taking exams or attending classes are voluntary, why have any kind of curriculum or path of study? All it would do is create paper work for an overloaded staff, or put additional burdens on volunteers.
 
Wim





-----Original Message-----
From: Ed Sutton <ed440 at mindspring.com>
To: caut <caut at ptg.org>
Sent: Wed, Jul 28, 2010 3:12 pm
Subject: Re: [CAUT] Re Retesting(OT)


Thus we see why, 30 years ago, old RPTs were grandfathered in, no test 
equired.
If any change happens, it will, hopefully, be done in some way as to not 
enalize old members who don't want to participate.
It might also be done in such a way that it is too interesting to ignore. 
hy do some members with 30, 40, 50 years experience continue to attend 
lasses, voluntarily?
Personally, I favor the "create your own curriculum" approach. It's what the 
ost motivated people are doing already.
Ed S.

---- Original Message ----- 
rom: "Susan Kline" <skline at peak.org>
o: <caut at ptg.org>
ent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 8:40 PM
ubject: Re: [CAUT] Re Retesting(OT)


>I remember the "passport to Excellence" and while it was a good idea, it 
>had no authority to it.


 And just as well that it didn't. Techs are independent cusses, who don't 
 tolerate being forced to do something because some people in an 
 organization have decided to order them around.

 Before requiring ongoing education and retesting of the whole RPT-holding 
 Guild roster, one must consider how firmly attached they are to the 
 organization. Their dislike of being coerced (and of tolerating the 
 implied condescension), and the stresses on their schedule and finances 
 (which are often stretched to the breaking point already) could easily 
 find many of them dumping the organization before submitting to ongoing 
 new requirements which take time and money.

 Remember that a large percentage of technicians are near retirement age. 
 Their businesses are mature, and to the extent that they can be excellent 
 at their work, many of them already are. The large number of people, many 
 elderly, who attend meetings and conventions, and who like hands-on 
 classes, is only possible, IMO, because they are voluntary, and because 
 people enjoy seeing their friends and colleagues now and then. There is 
 joy in lifelong learning, but that is because of the free  exploration 
 involved. One is following a path of one's own devising, seeing where it 
 leads. Re-education and retesting sounds like a one-size-fits-all 
 situation, and among veteran piano tuners, one size probably fits almost 
 no one.

 Stepping away a few yards, and attempting to look at the problem 
 objectively, some people are good at doing things on their own, and some 
 are good at following directions and taking tests. The psychology of the 
 credential assumes that these two groups hold exactly the same people, but 
 is this really true? How much of the time?

 (Conrad's latest flamesuit carefully buttoned ...)

 Susan Kline


 



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