Hi Ed... LOVED that closing line...:):) I run into the same kind of thing with Tunelab, and had similar experiences with Cybertuner. You can move your hand held or laptop around sometimes and get radically different readings for pitch / inharmonicity measurements. I generally look for a reading that looks rather bonkers and discard it unless it just keeps coming back no matter what I do. Over to something a bit off this tangent and more back to the original string coupling bit... was working on a D today that I see quite a bit. About 10 years old and has had some awfully aggressive string seating work done on it at some time in the past and has from about C5 to C6 a series of really untunable notes. No real false beating ...at least not those classic false beats that have a distinct period... but lots of wavering. Got the impression that I was looking at a kind of unison para-inharmonicity problem. There isa kind of side ways wavering/ flimmering to the pitch of the unisons and no steady period to any of it. Didnt have time to check it out thoroughly and its the first time this thought has gelled in my thinking so I'll look closer next time... but I wouldnt be a bit surprised to find that the partials of each of the three strings don't match very well. It was clear that whatever the falseness was... it was happening at pitches a couple 3-4 partials above the fundamental. I'll try measuring this on Wednesday when I go out there again. Got to wondering tho that assuming you have this kind of situation.... how does that affect string coupling... and what possibilities get scrunched when it comes to coloring unisons in the manner we've been tossing around ? Cheers RicB Fred and Richard- An interesting experiment is to measure the pitch of a tuning fork several times, or to measure it several times as the tone decays. Using Cybertuner's Pianalyzer function I often get variations of as much as 0.6 cents. Sometimes I get 3 or 4 identical readings in succession, then a very different reading. Perhaps this is an artifact of Cybertuner, but I think more likely we have to admit that big things (multi-molectular things, like tuning forks and pianos) don't take their Hertz as seriously as we do. [Besides collecting tuning forks, I have tried experiments in close calibration, for demonstration and ear-training. Sometimes we just can't help ourselves...] I think that optimal professional piano service involves a very carefully informed sense of what appropriate degree of accuracy we are capable of delivering in a particular situation. We should be attempting the very best possible, and not attempting what is impossible unless we're on our own time. Defining the appropriate/optimal/possible is a life's work. "A piano technician makes more moral decisions in 20 minutes than a preacher makes in a week." Wish I knew who said that. Ed S.
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