I've heard similar reports on occasion for the prehardened hammers which has prompted some to insist on getting them raw. The problems I've heard have more been that the hammers were too hard and people were not able to voice them down enough especially through the tenor. If the hammers lack power after the prelacquering then sometimes adding additional lacquer can present problems as the core felt becomes impervious to additional applications and it just stays near the surface. This can cause a very bright tone when played p - mf but when you try and get to fff the hammer collapses and the power seems to bottom out prematurely. For performance Steinways I'm more inclined to go to a different hammer, a more fully tensioned and harder pressed hammer such as a Hamburg Renner or even an Abel Select such as Pianotek sells or maybe the Abel naturals from Brooks. The ability to release tension to the crown on that type of hammer plus the greater out of the box firmness obviates the use of lacquer (except maybe on the top most hammers) and gives greater power without the downside of over lacquering. The softer, lacquered hammer is fine for their smaller pianos whose upper end demands aren't as great and whose scale tensions also argue for something more flexible. Even there, however, I would still ask for them unhardened so that you can control that yourself or use a Bacon felt hammer from Ronsen which gives a very similar texture with the use of lacquer. The difference being that the Ronsen hammer starts out a bit firmer than the unlacquered Steinway hammer and so the application of lacquer need only be a fairly modest one. David Love www.davidlovepianos.com -----Original Message----- From: caut-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf Of Israel Stein Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 8:14 AM To: caut at ptg.org Subject: [CAUT] Getting lacquer out of hammers - follow up Hello again, For all of you who are claiming success with the pre-hardened Steinway hammers - how many of you have had success with them on a top-quality concert hall stage instrument? Which is the situation we found ourselves in her at SF State. I have used those hammers before also, with good - even excellent - results. In less demanding situations. But when it came to the very demanding concert hall use - the hammers, as delivered, fell short. They never delivered the volume that this instrument is capable of - pianists complained that it took too much work to get the volume they needed, and nothing we did could improve that. Flushing the hardener and starting over gave much more satisfactory results - both in terms of volume and tone color. Which tells me that having full control of the hardening process may work better than depending on what they do in the factory. Of course, there is always the possibility that this set of hammers is an exception - that for some reason it was overhardened at the factory. I still prefer, in the future, to put the lacquer where I want it if i need to use Steinway hammers and not depend on the factory's alleged 30-second soaking. As long as Steinway makes un-hardened hammers available - which I believe they do. Israel Stein
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