Richard, I did it. I ignited the extensive discussion about historical temperaments with an innocent question about what temperament might be appropriate for Schubert. Definitely got more than I bargained for and I, for one, am very grateful for that. maybe you could contact this guy who tuned the piano! <snip> Now that I've found a source for a Schubert temperament, we can all rest easy,right? I tracked down the tuner referred to on the Grand Obsession website, Tom Kuntz. He just left me a voice mail about the "Schubert Concert Tuning." He said that it is basically an Equal Temperament with very little stretch in the bass or treble. (If anyone here is also on the Cybertuner list, you may recall a recent thread in which a couple of oboists requested essentially the same thing.) Kuntz said that he got this tuning from Mark Weiner (THE Mark Weiner, or another one?), who got it from "a guy in the Steinway factory." If I understood him correctly, Kuntz measured cents deviation off of the author's (Perri Knize's) piano in order to reproduce this tuning, which makes his iteration third hand. It is not clear whether all of these tunings were on the same piano or not. As for having, "... found a source for the Schubert temperament," there was an unwritten smiley face implied after that comment, right? The online discussion, while brimming with scholarship and artistic judgement, was inconclusive on this point. And Tom Kuntz added that he thinks the temperament he put on Knize's piano was just called Schubert, but he doesn't think anyone maintains that it was actually the/a temperament that Schubert used. Clear as mud? Alan Eder -----Original Message----- From: Richard Adkins <RADKINS at coe.edu> To: caut at ptg.org Sent: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 8:17 am Subject: Re: [CAUT] Schubert Temperament Now, those of you on the CAUT list remember this recent (long-winded) discussion someone wanting to temper a piano for Schubert????.....I don't keep track of who originated this question....but... Well, on the http://www.grandobsession.com website....under News and Events....I read: "Tom put the "Schubert Concert Tuning" on a new Steinway model A so that the audience could experience the sound Perri described in GRAND OBSESSION." I don't want to get into another historical tuning discussion....but....maybe you could contact this guy who tuned the piano! Well, enough about this....don't want to be too "obsessive"....! I only came across this by accident from a post on a different list asking about Grotrian's. Now that I've found a source for a Schubert temperament, we can all rest easy,right? Cheers.... Richard.... -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://ptg.org/pipermail/caut_ptg.org/attachments/20090217/f181d4e8/attachment.html>
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