[CAUT] How do you spell fraud?

Fri Apr 24 10:29:11 PDT 2009

This looks like a "cut down" to me, i.e. the original front panel removed
and the sides cut back above the desk area, and the toes removed to make the
instrument look less massive.  That music "rack" on the front looks
un-Steinway-like, in any case.  

Greg Granoff

HSU

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From: caut-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf Of Israel
Stein
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2009 7:35 AM
To: caut at ptg.org
Subject: [CAUT] How do you spell fraud?

Richard,

That was my initial thought also - stupid piano owner. But that serial
number absolutely does not go with the case styling in the other picture -
it's just not a 1867 case style (which is what the serial number would
indicate). So either the serial number is falsified, or the picture showing
the serial number is from another piano. Either way something is fishy... 

Israel Stein 

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Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 08:48:35 -0500
From: "Richard Adkins"  <mailto:RADKINS at coe.edu> <RADKINS at coe.edu>
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It's not fraud they are just ignorant. The "registered in 1878" it taken
right off the plate, as you
can see from the photo on the ad. So that's where they got that. Go by the
serial number. Maybe you can write them a correction on the date going by
serial number. This info is available from Steinway's
website. I would not call the police!~~~duh....maybe that's how they do it
in Hawaii.

Richard Adkins
Coe College

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Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 07:04:22 -0400
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Rob

If you suspect fraud, I would contact the local PD or the state's attorney
general's office. 

Wim

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From: Rob & Helen Goodale  <mailto:rrg at unlv.nevada.edu>
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Sent: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 5:39 pm
Subject: [CAUT] How do you spell fraud?

An interesting find on Craigs List.? Someone is selling an "Antique Steinway
upright" that was "registered in 1878", (whatever that's supposed to
mean).??It says that it?is "historical"?but doesn't?provide any
explanation?why.? From the picture it is plainly obvious to be 1950s-ish
with a modern cabinet.? It says it has serial number 64810 which would?make
the date about right.? However the numbers which are partly visible?are
completely the wrong font.? It looks like rub-on numbers from an art store.

?

I have observed a rash of misleading or plain out fraudulent piano ads
lately.? Someone here has been selling gray markets out of their home
perpetually.? A different piano every week but always the same living room
in the picture.? I've also seen a lot of pianos lately being?advertised as
"rare" but no explanation as to why.? A while back someone was selling an
incredibly average old upright but the ad went on paragraph after
paragraph?proclaiming it to be?special and rare and that you would be a fool
to pass this opportunity up.? Have any of you noticed this activity
increasing in your area?

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http://lasvegas.craigslist.org/msg/1136859630.html 

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Rob Goodale, RPT

Las Vegas, NV

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