[CAUT] U of GA.

[Douglas Wood]

I'd suggest applying what I call it the "smile test": When pricing a  
challenging job (or one for a challenging client!), can you still  
smile when they say yes? !

Doug

On Jun 27, 2008, at 3:01 PM, Paul T Williams wrote:

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> I think you're on to something Ric.  How else are the money pockets  
> going to get the hint????  OK everyone.. apply for every job that  
> comes up.  Express your salary requirements and let's see what  
> happens...  It might open some eyes on the top of the wallet  
> chain.  It can only help all of us in the long run..  Hey.  What if  
> somebody takes you up on it?????????????  $100,000/year with  
> benefits would be sweet!!!
>
> OK...I'm back from dreamland.
>
> Paul
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> Richard Brekne <ricb at pianostemmer.no>
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> 06/27/2008 04:49 PM
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> [CAUT]  U of GA.
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> The real kicker is that for this kind of job situation, and the real
> responsibilities that are involved... at least if the school is even
> half minded serious about music education... the technician that makes
> 100.000 on his own should be being offered double plus bennies to get
> him/her to take care of .... literally everyone and everything.
>
> Perhaps a strategy we should start employing is that when a University
> job listing gets posted we all send in an application stating our  
> quals
> etc.... AND a minimum wage requirement of say 150.000 USD a year plus
> full insurance package.  If a University gets say 50 such responses  
> when
> posting a job maybe they will get a bit of a reality check as to  
> what it
> will take to seduce a truly good enough tech from his/her private
> practice.... just a thought.
>
> Cheers
> RicB
>
>
>    Re: [CAUT] U of GA.The sadness of it all is that I know of another
>    position at another school that pays less than this!  It was posted
>    here on CAUT about a month ago.  It is for a third technician at a
>    school up north.  I have no shame in telling everyone that I'm
>    putting in for a lot of these CAUT jobs.  But this job up north...
>    It pays less than GA, and the technician who's in  charge told me
>    that he is mostly trying to look for applicants who have gone
>    through the Masters program in Florida.  Keep in mind I don't  
> know a
>    technician who's gone through that program, so I can't speak for
>    them.  It seems like a needle in a haystack situation though.  Can
>    you get someone from a masters program to work for $30000?  Someone
>    who you just want to use to tune practice rooms...  Needless to  
> say,
>    because of the pay and the duties I am no longer interested in that
>    opportunity.  Perhaps someone is, but I don't know who.  I got  
> in to
>    this business because I found it to be interesting, challenging and
>    a lot of fun.  The facts are, I made a good living before I  
> became a
>    technician and can only downgrade so much!  On the other hand...  A
>    University which I wanted to work for turned me down with out a
>    tryout or interview.  My 5 years experience, a certificate from a 2
>    year accredited institution in Piano Technology, being an RPT,
>    having lots of concert experience was just not enough for them.
>    This is after not having a full time technician for more than 2
>    years.  Needless to say I'm told that the pianos are in quite a
>    state of disrepair.  They posted the job 3 times and could not get
>    anyone they wanted.  They are going after the technicians that make
>    $100000 per year.  They want to get one of them and pay them
>    $50000.  I can't believe that one of those folks will take a pay  
> cut
>    of half, or stick around for vary long.  The facts are you probably
>    wont get as many years out of a person who's in their 50s/60s as  
> you
>    will a person who's mid 20s say.  That's not to say that age should
>    be a factor in employment, its just that if you can only keep a
>    technician for 5 years, you should take a look at why.  I know I
>    don't want to work as much when or if I reach 60.  Maybe its  
> just me
>    though?
>    Shawn Brock, RPT
>
>

Doug Wood
School of Music
University of Washington

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