[CAUT] Sostenuto mounting (was Re: Forum format)

Ron Nossaman rnossaman at cox.net
Fri Jul 18 16:10:41 MDT 2008


Fred Sturm wrote:
>     I tried a different browser, and was able to see the images of the 
> other pages (displayed as TIFF files). The text seems to confirm what I 
> had inferred: The sostenuto rod is mounted to the bellyrail in the 1875 
> patent, and the 1916 patent does not seem to mention mounting, referring 
> only to hinged tabs. (I have to admit I skimmed the text).
> Regards,
> Fred Sturm
> University of New Mexico
> fssturm at unm.edu
> 
> 
> 
> On Jul 18, 2008, at 2:21 PM, Fred Sturm wrote:
> 
>> On Jul 18, 2008, at 1:12 AM, David Ilvedson wrote:
>>
>>> Does anyone know if the NY Steinway Sost system or the Hamburg Sost 
>>> system came first?
>>
>>     The patent for sostenuto dates way back to 1874 - for a square of 
>> all things, then adapted to uprights and grands in 1875. The Steinway 
>> site has what appears to be a complete listing of Steinway patents, 
>> unfortunately just titles, dates, brief description, and patent 
>> number. Searching the US Patent office 
>> http://www.uspto.gov/patft/ under patent number 164,052, I found a 
>> drawing that seems to show a bellyrail mounted system. There is 
>> another sostenuto patent in 1916, which appears to be for the hinged 
>> tab, though the picture may imply mounting to the action bracket. I 
>> had some problems with viewing some of the images (there were 
>> supposedly four pages of drawings for the 1916 one, but I was only 
>> able to view one. No text for patents that old). Maybe someone else 
>> will have better luck.
>>     In any case, it appears that what Steinway initially invented for 
>> the grand piano was belly mounted, and that at some later point they 
>> switched to the current NY action mounted system.
>> Regards,
>> Fred Sturm

Thanks Fred, I had seen the 1916 patent, but not the 1875, 
called an improvement in piano attachments. <G> But the text 
describes it as a cord, wire, or strip, so maybe it doesn't count.

Ron N


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