I've been thinking a lot about this stuff for awhile now, and more so during this thread. Our listserves as they are now really do a decent job for real-time learning and sharing. And that of course is what it they are for. And after mulling it over again and again, I don't think a forum would necessarily do a better job of that. What I keep coming back to though is the idea of an online database, or repository, of collective knowledge and wisdom, a wikipedia of piano technology, if you will. I think I have been trying to shoehorn the listserve format into something it is not designed to do. The two vehicles together would be more useful than either alone. Pesky Al -- Alan McCoy, RPT Eastern Washington University amccoy at mail.ewu.edu 509-359-4627 509-999-9512 > From: Fred Sturm <fssturm at unm.edu> > Reply-To: "College and University Technicians <caut at ptg.org>" <caut at ptg.org> > Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 08:27:05 -0600 > To: "College and University Technicians <caut at ptg.org>" <caut at ptg.org> > Subject: [CAUT] Forum format (was Re: Requirements for contributing/posting; > RPT status > > Hi Alan, > Is there an example of such an animal out there that you have been > subscribed to and have found useful and amenable? As opposed to the > "bulletin board" or blog formats where there is an initial > "item" (could be an article, a product, whatever) and then a bunch of > comments posted (which could be sent automatically to everyone who is > involved). [With that kind of format (ie, on a web page with comments > posted below something or other), I find that I am only interested in > wading through if there has been, like on Amazon, a way for readers to > say "this was useful," which makes it possible to "skip the crap" > without wading through pages of posts.] > Personally, I have my doubts that there would be enough interest in > such a complex means of communication: You have to search for an > appropriate thread before asking a question or posting an idea. What > if nobody is "there" (nobody happens to be subscribed to that topic, > or nobody you want to communicate with)? You start a new topic. How > long before somebody else notices? somebody responds? I guess it is a > good way of creating an organized archives, but I'm not so sure it > works with "real people in real time." Maybe you have seen an example > in real life that functions well, and can provide some testimony. > I agree with Ron that an open forum like this (caut) means that I am > likely to find things I didn't think I'd be interested in, things I > would be unlikely to "subscribe to" as a topic, and discover that > indeed I AM interested. > And, frankly, the psychology of an open conversation among > colleagues, even if much is just chatter, is more appealing to me. > There is a sense of connectedness, which I have found psychologically > very important over the years in this isolated and isolating profession. > Regards, > Fred Sturm > University of New Mexico > fssturm at unm.edu > > > > On Jul 14, 2008, at 7:31 PM, Alan McCoy wrote: > >> Well Ron there's nothing really limiting by using a forum structure >> for the >> conversation instead of a list server. The conversation would still >> exist in >> un-digested form. People would choose to reply to a thread or begin >> a new >> one, or not read it at all. The system would not in any way limit >> what you >> see or what you say. You choose what you want to pay attention to, >> or not, >> by subscribing to whatever you want to subscribe to, or not. The >> organization of the threads, the conversation, is neither in your >> control , >> nor not in your control. The organization of the conversation >> reflects the >> sensibilities of all who use it, and changes as the community of >> users see >> fit, dynamically and ongoing. >
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