[CAUT] Correction on salary for U of Georgia position

[Scott E. Thile]

Shawn, 

As I mentioned off list, I think your posts were completely appropriate, and
your conclusions well founded based on the information that you found. I was
careless in my wording in my preamble to Dr. Davis's comments that I posted
to the CAUT list a few days ago, and I apologize.

And now I'm also sorry I did not post the above to list as well as to Dale
and Kent. 

I'm also surprised by the reaction of the folks at U of G.

Anyway, I'm really very sorry I miss handled my part of this. I'll certainly
be more careful in the future.

Yours in pianos,
Scott

> -----Original Message-----
> From: caut-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces at ptg.org] On 
> Behalf Of Shawn Brock
> Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2008 9:14 AM
> To: College and University Technicians
> Subject: Re: [CAUT] Correction on salary for U of Georgia position
> 
> 
> Way to go Jeff!  I have basically been called a lyre over 
> this, when all I 
> did was ask a simple question about what others thought of 
> the pay...  Its 
> not my fault if the University does not know what's on the 
> web site that 
> belongs to them, or if the information that's provided on it 
> is out of date. 
> I just reported what the site says!  If they want to get hot 
> and bothered 
> about it maybe people such as myself should think again about 
> applying for 
> the job.  I don't know anyone who works for this institution and its 
> probably a wonderful place to work, but too many 
> misunderstandings like this 
> one could give the place a black eye with technicians.  I'm 
> glad someone 
> came out and let the list know a little more about what's 
> going on.  I am 
> the one who suffered for this.  I had an application in with 
> those folks (I 
> love that part of the country) but I don't have to worry about that 
> anymore...  Don't get me wrong, I care about how the 
> University feels about 
> my statements but mostly I am concerned of how this makes the 
> Guild and 
> other technicians feel about me.  Keep in mind here, all I 
> did was state 
> information that appeared on the UGA site.  So, its all over 
> now I hope! 
> Nun the less the only thing that is and or was  erroneous is 
> the web site or 
> the person who filed the complaint.  Not me or any of my 
> statements.  Either 
> the figures on the site are correct or they are not, either 
> way that's not 
> my problem...  I just have never done well with disrespect 
> from others, and 
> that aint going to change.  Not for any university in the 
> world!  Does 
> anyone think a person is going to apply for a job like this with out 
> researching the pay?  Come on!  I can't believe that people 
> needed to know 
> where I got the info.  Oh, um, well, its a public university! 
>  Any how, 
> thanks again Jeff!  I'm glad someone made a statement for the 
> record.  I 
> have gotten apologies privately, but nothing has ever been 
> said on the list. 
> Like I have stated, for me my relations with other 
> technicians is more 
> important than any of this other business.  I guess we will 
> always have 
> erroneous folks who make erroneous statements!  Take care folks.
> 
> Shawn Brock, RPT
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jeff Tanner" <tannertuner at bellsouth.net>
> To: "College and University Technicians" <caut at ptg.org>
> Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2008 8:46 AM
> Subject: Re: [CAUT] Correction on salary for U of Georgia position
> 
> 
> > Hi all,
> > I was contacted by a member of the search committee (not Dr. Davis) 
> > about
> > the position and he and I have had several email exchanges, 
> and that is 
> > the genesis for this correction.  I am not interested in 
> the position, so 
> > I basically let him have it about the low salary being 
> discussed on our 
> > list. For what it's worth, here is information you would 
> all be interested 
> > in:
> >
> > The salary range is $32,650 min to $61, 492 max.  The 
> information that 
> > was
> > spoken of earlier has to do with the official salary pay 
> plan for the 
> > postion that is posted on the UGA HR web site. 
> > 
> http://www.hr.uga.edu/recruitment/compensation/payplan_2008_title.pdf 
> > There is column which reads, "Annual Entry Maximum", which 
> to me implies 
> > that you cannot be hired for more than the amount in that 
> column.  And the 
> > figure in that column for piano technician is $37,547.50.  
> That is the 
> > source of the "erroneous or false statement"
> >
> > The faculty member said that we were the source of erroneous 
> > information.
> > When I pointed out to him what the official HR pay plan 
> says, his exact 
> > response to me was this: OUR JOB NOTICE SAYS SALARY COMMENSURATE 
> > W/EXPERIENCE, ETC.  IT DOES NOT SAY "ONLY ENTRY LEVEL 
> CANDIDATES WILL BE 
> > CONSIDERED AND ONLY ENTRY LEVEL SALARY WILL BE OFFERED,"
> >
> > But my knowledge of the history of that position is that 
> the last time
> > they hired a piano technician, a tech with 20 years 
> experience was hired 
> > at the entry level figure at the time.  So, you guys make your own 
> > judgement about what the salary will be and how erroneous 
> and false the 
> > information is.
> >
> > Jeff Tanner
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <scott.thile at murraystate.edu>
> > To: <caut at ptg.org>
> > Cc: <shawnbruce at sbcglobal.net>; <wddavis at uga.edu>
> > Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 12:08 AM
> > Subject: [CAUT] Correction on salary for U of Georgia position
> >
> >
> >> Hello folks,
> >>
> >> The salary range for this position is higher than
> >> what was found on the website and posted to the list.
> >> I would encourage those that are interested in the
> >> position to contact Dr. Davis directly.
> >>
> >> Dr. Davis, sorry for any confusion caused by the
> >> erroneous report of the salary range. Hopefully this
> >> will help clear it up.
> >>
> >> Hope you find a great technician for the position.
> >>
> >> Yours in pianos, Scott,
> >> Murray State University
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: William Davis [mailto:wddavis at uga.edu]
> >> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 3:47 PM
> >> To: Scott E. Thile; shawnbruce at sbcglobal.net; shawn bruce
> >> Cc: Richard Zimdars
> >> Subject: Fwd: Piano Tech opening at U of Georgia
> >>
> >>
> >> Mr. Thile and Mr. Bruce, one of our senior piano
> >> faculty members has informed me that an unfortunate
> >> and false statement is circulating on the PTG/CAUT 
> listserve(s). The 
> >> incorrect statement is that the salary for our piano technician 
> >> position is specified at a low level ....
> >>
> >> Our vacancy notice states that the salary is
> >> "commensurate with training and experience." It is
> >> not specified beyond that. Our university system does stipulate 
> >> minimums and maximums for every staff position on campus, but it 
> >> gives us a extremely broad range of flexibility, far more 
> so than the 
> >> erroneous statement indicates.
> >>
> >>
> >> Prospective applicants for our position are
> >> encouraged to contact me at wddavis at uga.edu or
> >> telephone 706-542-3737 if they have any questions.
> >>
> >> Sincerely, William Davis
> >>
> >> Scott E. Thile
> >> Piano/Instrument Technician
> >> ---------------------------
> >> Dept. of Music, Murray State University
> >> 504 Fine Arts Building, Murray, KY 42071
> >> Office Phone: 270-809-4396 
> >> http://campus.murraystate.edu/staff/scott.thile/index.html
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> > 
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