Thanks Scott. These things happen sometimes. This has just been... Well, lets just say trying! Thanks for your apology. Shawn Brock, RPT ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott E. Thile" <scott.thile at murraystate.edu> To: "'College and University Technicians'" <caut at ptg.org> Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2008 3:46 PM Subject: Re: [CAUT] Correction on salary for U of Georgia position > Shawn, > > As I mentioned off list, I think your posts were completely appropriate, > and > your conclusions well founded based on the information that you found. I > was > careless in my wording in my preamble to Dr. Davis's comments that I > posted > to the CAUT list a few days ago, and I apologize. > > And now I'm also sorry I did not post the above to list as well as to Dale > and Kent. > > I'm also surprised by the reaction of the folks at U of G. > > Anyway, I'm really very sorry I miss handled my part of this. I'll > certainly > be more careful in the future. > > Yours in pianos, > Scott > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: caut-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces at ptg.org] On >> Behalf Of Shawn Brock >> Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2008 9:14 AM >> To: College and University Technicians >> Subject: Re: [CAUT] Correction on salary for U of Georgia position >> >> >> Way to go Jeff! I have basically been called a lyre over >> this, when all I >> did was ask a simple question about what others thought of >> the pay... Its >> not my fault if the University does not know what's on the >> web site that >> belongs to them, or if the information that's provided on it >> is out of date. >> I just reported what the site says! If they want to get hot >> and bothered >> about it maybe people such as myself should think again about >> applying for >> the job. I don't know anyone who works for this institution and its >> probably a wonderful place to work, but too many >> misunderstandings like this >> one could give the place a black eye with technicians. I'm >> glad someone >> came out and let the list know a little more about what's >> going on. I am >> the one who suffered for this. I had an application in with >> those folks (I >> love that part of the country) but I don't have to worry about that >> anymore... Don't get me wrong, I care about how the >> University feels about >> my statements but mostly I am concerned of how this makes the >> Guild and >> other technicians feel about me. Keep in mind here, all I >> did was state >> information that appeared on the UGA site. So, its all over >> now I hope! >> Nun the less the only thing that is and or was erroneous is >> the web site or >> the person who filed the complaint. Not me or any of my >> statements. Either >> the figures on the site are correct or they are not, either >> way that's not >> my problem... I just have never done well with disrespect >> from others, and >> that aint going to change. Not for any university in the >> world! Does >> anyone think a person is going to apply for a job like this with out >> researching the pay? Come on! I can't believe that people >> needed to know >> where I got the info. Oh, um, well, its a public university! >> Any how, >> thanks again Jeff! I'm glad someone made a statement for the >> record. I >> have gotten apologies privately, but nothing has ever been >> said on the list. >> Like I have stated, for me my relations with other >> technicians is more >> important than any of this other business. I guess we will >> always have >> erroneous folks who make erroneous statements! Take care folks. >> >> Shawn Brock, RPT >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Jeff Tanner" <tannertuner at bellsouth.net> >> To: "College and University Technicians" <caut at ptg.org> >> Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2008 8:46 AM >> Subject: Re: [CAUT] Correction on salary for U of Georgia position >> >> >> > Hi all, >> > I was contacted by a member of the search committee (not Dr. Davis) >> > about >> > the position and he and I have had several email exchanges, >> and that is >> > the genesis for this correction. I am not interested in >> the position, so >> > I basically let him have it about the low salary being >> discussed on our >> > list. For what it's worth, here is information you would >> all be interested >> > in: >> > >> > The salary range is $32,650 min to $61, 492 max. The >> information that >> > was >> > spoken of earlier has to do with the official salary pay >> plan for the >> > postion that is posted on the UGA HR web site. >> > >> http://www.hr.uga.edu/recruitment/compensation/payplan_2008_title.pdf >> > There is column which reads, "Annual Entry Maximum", which >> to me implies >> > that you cannot be hired for more than the amount in that >> column. And the >> > figure in that column for piano technician is $37,547.50. >> That is the >> > source of the "erroneous or false statement" >> > >> > The faculty member said that we were the source of erroneous >> > information. >> > When I pointed out to him what the official HR pay plan >> says, his exact >> > response to me was this: OUR JOB NOTICE SAYS SALARY COMMENSURATE >> > W/EXPERIENCE, ETC. IT DOES NOT SAY "ONLY ENTRY LEVEL >> CANDIDATES WILL BE >> > CONSIDERED AND ONLY ENTRY LEVEL SALARY WILL BE OFFERED," >> > >> > But my knowledge of the history of that position is that >> the last time >> > they hired a piano technician, a tech with 20 years >> experience was hired >> > at the entry level figure at the time. So, you guys make your own >> > judgement about what the salary will be and how erroneous >> and false the >> > information is. >> > >> > Jeff Tanner >> > >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: <scott.thile at murraystate.edu> >> > To: <caut at ptg.org> >> > Cc: <shawnbruce at sbcglobal.net>; <wddavis at uga.edu> >> > Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 12:08 AM >> > Subject: [CAUT] Correction on salary for U of Georgia position >> > >> > >> >> Hello folks, >> >> >> >> The salary range for this position is higher than >> >> what was found on the website and posted to the list. >> >> I would encourage those that are interested in the >> >> position to contact Dr. Davis directly. >> >> >> >> Dr. Davis, sorry for any confusion caused by the >> >> erroneous report of the salary range. Hopefully this >> >> will help clear it up. >> >> >> >> Hope you find a great technician for the position. >> >> >> >> Yours in pianos, Scott, >> >> Murray State University >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: William Davis [mailto:wddavis at uga.edu] >> >> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 3:47 PM >> >> To: Scott E. Thile; shawnbruce at sbcglobal.net; shawn bruce >> >> Cc: Richard Zimdars >> >> Subject: Fwd: Piano Tech opening at U of Georgia >> >> >> >> >> >> Mr. Thile and Mr. Bruce, one of our senior piano >> >> faculty members has informed me that an unfortunate >> >> and false statement is circulating on the PTG/CAUT >> listserve(s). The >> >> incorrect statement is that the salary for our piano technician >> >> position is specified at a low level .... >> >> >> >> Our vacancy notice states that the salary is >> >> "commensurate with training and experience." It is >> >> not specified beyond that. Our university system does stipulate >> >> minimums and maximums for every staff position on campus, but it >> >> gives us a extremely broad range of flexibility, far more >> so than the >> >> erroneous statement indicates. >> >> >> >> >> >> Prospective applicants for our position are >> >> encouraged to contact me at wddavis at uga.edu or >> >> telephone 706-542-3737 if they have any questions. >> >> >> >> Sincerely, William Davis >> >> >> >> Scott E. Thile >> >> Piano/Instrument Technician >> >> --------------------------- >> >> Dept. of Music, Murray State University >> >> 504 Fine Arts Building, Murray, KY 42071 >> >> Office Phone: 270-809-4396 >> >> http://campus.murraystate.edu/staff/scott.thile/index.html >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > >
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