[CAUT] "Cross papering" - was; pictures of new key weighting pattern

[Keith Roberts]

I did a lot of papering in my mentors shop and I think you are right
Barbara. Width and/or how close to the screw you get the paper makes a
difference. On a S&S flange and rail, the depth the screw penetrates seems
critical. Too little will strip it and bottoming out will do the same. It's
a tapered hole so to speak and gets loose quick as you back the screwup.
On a stack of paper like that, the flange will have less resistance to
rotation making it necessary to tighten the screw more. Then the flange
flexes in the center and could crack in half if old. I attribute that sort
of work to laziness or hurried. Not that I haven't used it too.

Keith Roberts



On Jan 8, 2008 11:14 AM, Barbara Richmond <piano57 at insightbb.com> wrote:

> Thank you, Jim.  Yes, I know about cross papering.  It was the layers of
> full length strips I was referring to.
>
> I don't know if there is anything wrong with it technically, but I've seen
> some pretty "tall" flanges.  Sometimes I've peeled off all the paper and
> everything was fine...
>
> Occasionally I leave the screw partially in the rail to paper, but often I
> take it off so I can get just the right amount of paper at the right spot.
> I also vary the width of the strips--am I just fooling myself that it
> makes
> a difference?  Seems like it does.
>
> Barbara Richmond, RPT
> near Peoria, Illinois
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jim Busby" <jim_busby at byu.edu>
> To: "College and University Technicians" <caut at ptg.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 12:35 PM
> Subject: Re: [CAUT] "Cross papering" - was; pictures of new key weighting
> pattern
>
>
> > Also called "cross papering". A very useful technique not very well
> known.
> >
> > I think Barbara is referring to seeing 2 or 3 full length strips on one
> > side of the flange and 4 or 5 on the other. An excellent "Steinway
> School"
> > tech I know sees nothing wrong with it and says it "saves you from
> having
> > to take the screw all the way out, thus avoiding the possibility of
> > stripping treads by improper screw insertion".  While I would never do
> > this, is there anything really wrong with it, other than we've all been
> > taught not to do it??
> >
> > Jim Busby BYU
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: caut-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf Of
> > Conrad Hoffsommer
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 11:15 AM
> > To: College and University Technicians
> > Subject: Re: [CAUT] pictures of new key weighting pattern
> >
> > Barbara Richmond wrote:
> >> It sort of reminds me of going into space and travel Steinway parts and
> >> finding layers of paper on both sides of the flanges.
> >>
> >> br
> >>
> >
> > Paper on both sides of S&S flanges is sometimes necessary if extreme
> > shifts left or right are needed. Half or quarter strips left front and
> > right rear will shift the hammer well to the left w/o affecting travel.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Conrad Hoffsommer - Keyboard Technician
> > Luther College, 700 College Dr., Decorah, Iowa 52101-1045
> > 1-(563)-387-1204 // Fax 1-(563)-387-1076
> >
>
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